--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ispiritkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > I have a different take on "being good". It can include your view
> > above, which to me a sort of Ayn Rand view of altruism. 
> > 
> > However, per my prior adjacent post on being "sadhu" and "good", 
> from
> > SBS quote, I know there is a ground state of goodness. When one is 
> in
> > that zone, its all good. All action is permeated with love, respect,
> > caring,tenderness, support, and helpfulness. Its not an intellectual
> > thing. Not the result of a phd in Ethics or Religious Shastras.
> > 
> > And its clear when someone is functioning from that zone. No fancy
> > titles or labels can disguise it,or make what is not there appear.
> 
> 
> I think we must agree somewhere, and maybe disagree with details.
> 
> Not sure about what you include of the Ayn Rand view of altruism.  
> Although I am a fan of Randa's philosophy, I think her writings really 
> missed out on emotional development. 

"Ruth, "doing good", in my book, comes from a place of arrogance. It
implies that one knows whatu is "good" in the first place, ... but
whenever I see the phrase "doing good" in this context, my neckhairs
bristle and I check to make sure my weapons are handy."

I may have misunderstood you. But it seemed sort of a call to "run"
when someone announces they are here to do good. That is, in that
view, altruists always  muck it up -- either by simpleton naivite --
or  more ruthless manipulation for their own ends.


> When I wrote that post, along 
> with the C.S. Lewis quote, I was thinking along the lines of the 
> Louis Bromfield novel "A Good Woman".  This woman was just the 
> opposite of what you describe above.  One could see the sourness in 
> her face, and feel the anger seething below the surface, yet she 
> always did exactly the "good works" that drew approval from her 
> church circle.  The novel painted a clear picture of emotional 
> hypocrisy.
> 
> I agree with you that when someone is functioning from the zone of 
> goodness, "No fancy titles or labels can disguise it,or make what is 
> not there appear."  However, that doesn't make it "all good".  I have 
> seen very well-meaning people take actions that are simply 
> misinformed.*  Action is quite a concrete thing, and translation from 
> the emotional/spiritual state of goodness to the physical state of 
> action sometimes gets garbled.
> 
> ~~~   ~~~~   ~~~
> 
> I use the term "misguided" so often my children asked me once, "Is 
> everybody who disagrees with you misguided?" ;)
>


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