On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote:
I don't know what type of experience you are talking about,
matrixmonitor...I'm only
addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If transcendence
isn't conscious,
how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists?
My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not
intended to reflect
TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I described,
of pure
consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing
deeper and
deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but other
meditation
traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM produces
conscious
transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me.
Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the
makara-bindu and "open the eye of knowledge", the "third eye" as the
TM puja mentions, most TMers will just languish in a laya-samadhi.
The techniques to actually awaken awareness there aren't taught in
TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to awaken so highly, it just
doesn't happen.
Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks
in their "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can
prevent such full awakening.
Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good thing.
But if you've ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the
resultant distorted personality types, one does start to wonder how
healthy it is. Some of these guys looks like they were vampirized for
years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make the brain very coherent
at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi.
