Sorry, Kirk.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't say that shit. I don't believe it either. But I also don't believe > that TMers are very enlightened. Look around. On the other hand, the > enlightened can be enlightened sleepetators, enlightened dogshit > cleaneruppers,and enlightened twirps as we see here all the time. > Enlightenment is overrated. At the very least it should be conscious > volition to be what one is without regret. Maybe you and other blackouters > like blacking out. Sounds fun to me. I have never been able to lose > consciousness ever through any means, except for that one Mardi-Gras where I > woke up and I was walking sideways down the street and hours had gone by. > Alcohol is very not enlightening. It was the Vaj Genie who sayeth thusly. He > is like very fractal Bro, don't get him started. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "endlessrainintoapapercup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:33 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique > and experience > > > > Kirk said: > > < Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks > > in their "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent > > such full > > awakening.> > > > > What exactly causes these alleged blocks? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@> wrote: > >> > >> That vampired look I have determined comes from squeezing the eyes shut > >> for > > many hours a day which gives a person bruises under their eyes (dark > > circles) and > > also from the lack of sunlight. I used to look like that from rounding. > > Most people do > > at some point. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Vaj > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:26 AM > >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM > >> technique and > > experience > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: > >> > >> > >> I don't know what type of experience you are talking about, > >> matrixmonitor...I'm > > only > >> addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If transcendence > >> isn't > > conscious, > >> how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists? > >> > >> My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not > >> intended to > > reflect > >> TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I described, > >> of pure > >> consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing deeper > >> and > >> deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but other > >> meditation > >> traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM produces > >> conscious > >> transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the > >> makara-bindu and > > "open the eye of knowledge", the "third eye" as the TM puja mentions, most > > TMers > > will just languish in a laya-samadhi. The techniques to actually awaken > > awareness > > there aren't taught in TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to awaken > > so > > highly, it just doesn't happen. > >> > >> > >> Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in > >> their > > "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full > > awakening. > >> > >> > >> Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good thing. But > >> if you've > > ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the resultant distorted > > personality > > types, one does start to wonder how healthy it is. Some of these guys > > looks like they > > were vampirized for years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make the > > brain very > > coherent at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi. > >> > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
