I didn't say that shit. I don't believe it either. But I also don't believe that TMers are very enlightened. Look around. On the other hand, the enlightened can be enlightened sleepetators, enlightened dogshit cleaneruppers,and enlightened twirps as we see here all the time. Enlightenment is overrated. At the very least it should be conscious volition to be what one is without regret. Maybe you and other blackouters like blacking out. Sounds fun to me. I have never been able to lose consciousness ever through any means, except for that one Mardi-Gras where I woke up and I was walking sideways down the street and hours had gone by. Alcohol is very not enlightening. It was the Vaj Genie who sayeth thusly. He is like very fractal Bro, don't get him started.
----- Original Message ----- From: "endlessrainintoapapercup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and experience > Kirk said: > < Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks > in their "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent > such full > awakening.> > > What exactly causes these alleged blocks? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That vampired look I have determined comes from squeezing the eyes shut >> for > many hours a day which gives a person bruises under their eyes (dark > circles) and > also from the lack of sunlight. I used to look like that from rounding. > Most people do > at some point. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Vaj >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM >> technique and > experience >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: >> >> >> I don't know what type of experience you are talking about, >> matrixmonitor...I'm > only >> addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If transcendence >> isn't > conscious, >> how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists? >> >> My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not >> intended to > reflect >> TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I described, >> of pure >> consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing deeper >> and >> deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but other >> meditation >> traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM produces >> conscious >> transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me. >> >> >> >> >> Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the >> makara-bindu and > "open the eye of knowledge", the "third eye" as the TM puja mentions, most > TMers > will just languish in a laya-samadhi. The techniques to actually awaken > awareness > there aren't taught in TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to awaken > so > highly, it just doesn't happen. >> >> >> Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in >> their > "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full > awakening. >> >> >> Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good thing. But >> if you've > ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the resultant distorted > personality > types, one does start to wonder how healthy it is. Some of these guys > looks like they > were vampirized for years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make the > brain very > coherent at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi. >> > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
