> The statement "There is One only" is from the 
> POV of mind.
> 
Actually, the statement "There is One only" is *Mind*; 
it's not a point-of-view, it's the *Mind Only* 
experienced in transcendental consciousness - there is 
no origin - all POV are false. That's the point. 

Another way of stating this truth is that "there are 
not two". Both of these statements come from the 
Adwaita Vedanta scriptures, which according to Shankara, 
are valid means of knowledge.

But even so, I'm not understanding why Wayne Liquorman's
understanding of Adwaita would be a joke to most of 
America.

Duveyoung wrote:
> > > One could do much worse for an Advaitic guru
> > > than Tolle so I'm not complaining -- imagine, 
> > > shudder, if Oprah had imprinted on, say, Wayne 
> > > Liquorman, why Advaita would be a joke to
> > > most of America.  
> > >
Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > Well, maybe so, but what exact aspect of Wayne 
> > Liquorman's writing on Adwaita are you protesting? 
> > Is it a major issue or a minor issue?
> > 
> > There are three issues that must be understood in 
> > order to understand Adwaita: The realization that 
> > there are *not two*, the realization that things 
> > and events are an *illusion*, and the *dispelling 
> > of illusion* by process of experiential pure 
> > conciousness.
> > 
> > In a nutshell: 
> > 
> > There is One only. There is no creation; no 
> > destruction; no coming to be, and no ceasing to 
> > be. Things do not change, neither do they move 
> > about or stay the same. Things and events are an 
> > illusion, not real, yet not unreal. The 
> > Transcendental Conciousness is the only Reality. 
> > Liberation is the way to avoid the results of 
> > actions and to be free.
> > 
> > The metaphor of a burning firebrand that is 
> > waved in a circle, which creates an illusion of 
> > a continuous circle of fire has been used to 
> > describe the non-dual realization, which when 
> > experienced in reality, becomes just a series 
> > of point-instants of perception.
> > 
> > Titles of interest:
> > 
> > 'Consciousness Speaks'
> > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar
> > by Ramesh S. Balsekar and Wayne Liquorman
> > Advaita Press, 1992
> > 
> > 'The Book of One'
> > The Spiritual Path of Advaita
> > by Dennis Waite
> > O Books, 2004
> > 
> > 'Dispelling Illusion'
> > Gaudapada's Alatasanti
> > Douglas A. Fox
> > State University of New York Press, 1993
> >
>


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