> --The following statement is from the mind: > There is *Mind* only - everything else is an illusion. This is the cardinal doctrine of Adwaita Vedanta. What you have posted is a POV - all POVs are false: there is no "mind".
So, why, exactly, would Wayne Liquorman's understanding of Adwaita would be a joke to most of America? > Actually, the statement "There is One only" is *Mind*; > it's not a point-of-view, it's the *Mind Only* > experienced in transcendental consciousness - there is > no origin - all POV are false. That's the point." > > > > The statement "There is One only" is from the > > > POV of mind. > > > Richard J. Williams wrote: > > Actually, the statement "There is One only" is *Mind*; > > it's not a point-of-view, it's the *Mind Only* > > experienced in transcendental consciousness - there is > > no origin - all POV are false. That's the point. > > > > Another way of stating this truth is that "there are > > not two". Both of these statements come from the > > Adwaita Vedanta scriptures, which according to Shankara, > > are valid means of knowledge. > > > > But even so, I'm not understanding why Wayne Liquorman's > > understanding of Adwaita would be a joke to most of > > America. > > > > Duveyoung wrote: > > > > > One could do much worse for an Advaitic guru > > > > > than Tolle so I'm not complaining -- imagine, > > > > > shudder, if Oprah had imprinted on, say, Wayne > > > > > Liquorman, why Advaita would be a joke to > > > > > most of America. > > > > > > > Richard J. Williams wrote: > > > > Well, maybe so, but what exact aspect of Wayne > > > > Liquorman's writing on Adwaita are you protesting? > > > > Is it a major issue or a minor issue? > > > > > > > > There are three issues that must be understood in > > > > order to understand Adwaita: The realization that > > > > there are *not two*, the realization that things > > > > and events are an *illusion*, and the *dispelling > > > > of illusion* by process of experiential pure > > > > conciousness. > > > > > > > > In a nutshell: > > > > > > > > There is One only. There is no creation; no > > > > destruction; no coming to be, and no ceasing to > > > > be. Things do not change, neither do they move > > > > about or stay the same. Things and events are an > > > > illusion, not real, yet not unreal. The > > > > Transcendental Conciousness is the only Reality. > > > > Liberation is the way to avoid the results of > > > > actions and to be free. > > > > > > > > The metaphor of a burning firebrand that is > > > > waved in a circle, which creates an illusion of > > > > a continuous circle of fire has been used to > > > > describe the non-dual realization, which when > > > > experienced in reality, becomes just a series > > > > of point-instants of perception. > > > > > > > > Titles of interest: > > > > > > > > 'Consciousness Speaks' > > > > Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar > > > > by Ramesh S. Balsekar and Wayne Liquorman > > > > Advaita Press, 1992 > > > > > > > > 'The Book of One' > > > > The Spiritual Path of Advaita > > > > by Dennis Waite > > > > O Books, 2004 > > > > > > > > 'Dispelling Illusion' > > > > Gaudapada's Alatasanti > > > > Douglas A. Fox > > > > State University of New York Press, 1993 > > > > > > > > > >
