--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Who here still believes that enlightenment confers
> > perfection on the one who claims to have realized (or
> > who actually *has* realized) enlightenment? Who here
> > believes that the actions of the enlightened are *by
> > definition* "in accord with the laws of nature" and
> > thus are *always* "life supporting?"
>
> I don't rule it out.
>
> BUT:
>
> As I understand the premise (and have argued before
> a number of times), it has *NO* implications for the
> behavior of others.
>
> It does NOT mean, for example, that if someone who
> is enlightened tells you to do something, you should
> do it. It does NOT mean that if the enlightened
> person does Bad Things him/herself, you should accept
> them.
>
> This is where folks tend to get fouled up.
>
> The "perfection," if it exists, is in the enlightened
> person saying, "Do this." Nature "wants" the person
> to say that.
>
> But Nature does not necessarily "want" you to do it,
> only for the enlightened person to *tell* you to do
> it. Nature may "want" you to say to yourself, "That's
> dumb, I'm not going to do that."
>
> Nature "wants" the person to do the Bad Things (we
> cannot know why), but NOT for everyone else to
> accept them. Nature may "want" others to be outraged
> and prevent the person from doing the Bad Things, or
> punish him/her for having done them.
>
> It all goes back to the old "Unfathomable is the
> course of action." You can't second-guess it; you
> aren't relieved of the necessity of making your
> own decisions. The "perfection" of the enlightened
> person's actions is relevant ONLY to the
> enlightened person.
>
> Those of us in ignorance shouldn't respond to the
> enlightened person any differently than we do to
> anybody else. That the person is enlightened is
> irrelevant to the rest of us.
>
> > And who thinks that this piece of dogma is a self-
> > serving and often-abused piece of...uh...ignorance that
> > deserves to be flushed down the commode once and for all?
>
> The dogma that the enlightened person's actions are
> "perfect" is one thing. The dogma that THEREFORE you
> should accept everything the enlightened person does
> is something else entirely. That's the piece that's
> ignorant, IMHO.
>
Brilliant!
