--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <richardhughes103@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" > <richardhughes103@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time > > > > > I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food > > > > > when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at > > > > > MacDonalds! > > > > > > > > In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free > > as > > > > part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic > method > > > to > > > > turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. > Thus, > > > > eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. > > > > > > > > > I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have > their > > > feasts...and they're also free. > > > > > > At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have > > > consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I > > > attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they > prepare, > > > the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. > > > > No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough > > to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think > > it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. > > > I agree. > > They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while > the food is served and eaten.
First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. > Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use > garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO > kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. > But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy > organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I > asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, he said that > > > > > > meat eating is the main cause of wars throughout the world. > > > > > > > > > > Is that because most veggies are too weak to pick up guns? > > > > > > > > No. Meat-eating causes high pitta aggravation among the > people, > > > thus > > > > making them extremely susceptible to violence. Also, according > > to > > > > Prabhupada, meat-eating causes the bad karma of violence, which > > the > > > > animals experience during their death. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I acknowledge and fully subscribe to the maxim that the > > ways > > > > and > > > > > > > means of karma are unfathomable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nevertheless, I cannot help thinking of something after > > > having > > > > > seen > > > > > > > one of Alex Baldwin's excellent PETA public service > videos > > > > which > > > > > I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > sure most of you have seen. I'm talking about the ones > in > > > > which > > > > > he > > > > > > > narrates hidden footage of operatives inside > > slaughterhouses, > > > > > > farms, > > > > > > > labs, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One I saw a few days ago (sorry, I lost the link) > contained > > > > > footage > > > > > > > and narrative that informs the viewer that most of the > > > > hamburger > > > > > > meat > > > > > > > we eat in the U.S. comes from dairy cows who, no longer > > > needed > > > > to > > > > > > > produce milk because of age, go to slaughter. And, of > > > course, > > > > > > > horrible footage of cramped quarters in transporting said > > > beast > > > > > and > > > > > > > how they slaughter them are enough to make you lose your > > meal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But even if the daily cows were treated wonderfully in > life > > > and > > > > > > > death, I have to wonder this: milk is a complete and > whole > > > food > > > > > > that > > > > > > > we are provided with in order to nourish us and give us > > > life. > > > > > > Dairy > > > > > > > cows are, in effect, like our mothers. We then, in turn, > > eat > > > > our > > > > > > > mothers when they are no longer useful to us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forget about karma; even on a common sense, intuitive > > level, > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > that just not jibe? Isn't this intuitively yucky to even > > the > > > > > most > > > > > > > jaded meat-eating redneck? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Millions upon millions of cows are treated as such every > > > year. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > has got to be one hell of a build-up of karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
