--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know that I am a lone voice in the wilderness here, probably for
quite good reasons (as my view may suck), but I could read these
satires and put-downs as closing the door on exploration. 

I think we all explored a lot of far out, "unproven", not in
peer-reviewed journal stuff. I think most of us still do -- though
perhaps less so. Rolfing, that green swiss soap, rudraksa, coral, 
those red nubbly sandals, earth shoes, this and that intestinal and
liver cleansing regime, this or that diet, this book, that book .. is
just a tiny bucket full of stuff scooped up from a vast ocean many of
use hunkered down and considered worthy of exploration back then. All
unproven stuff. Much making outrageous claims. All sort of fun to
explore. 

Walking on the wild-side, exploring new territory, i think is
nourishing, even if it does not pan out. One out of one thousand pans
of sand does have gold in it. 

And I think its good for society, culture, and "the collective". Lots
of explorers scouting the territory -- and once in a while one of the
scouts comes back with a great finding. That doesn't make the other
scouts, or the other territories bad -- or unworthy. 
Each are part of the Exploratory/ Expansion process.

Most of us shudder and perhaps over react to stuff the TMO does,
because we are still trying to expunge our past cluelessness and
"stupidity" of staying within, and exploring a territory, long shown
to be more rocky and sparse, than an overflowing oasis. At least we
didn't see any oasis when we were there. 30 years ago. We stared at
the barren sparse desert too long, and now we are repenting a bit,
vilifying any and everything that now comes forth from that territory. 
 
Growing up, getting a clue, refining evaluation and decision
capabilities, reducing cogitative biases are all great things that we
have added to our lives in the past 30 years.

But I hope that process has not put out the fire, the rambunctious
spirit of explorations. "Lets run, not walk, up an over that hill to
see the other side JUST BECAUSE ITS THERE AND WE CAN" -- laughing most
of the way. Thats the spirit I saw and breathed in the early SIMS
days. And we found a lot of good stuff. And a lot of erry skeletons in
the desert. I hope those skeletons are not still scaring us. Or
scarring us.

And part of the issue, IMO, is that some just wanna live in the good
ol' days in the spirit and form of the old SIMS days. A common refrain
I hear here is "Why don't they just do it the way they USED  too!!??
wah!" -- a la -- old prices, old packages (one thing, not an
integrated package), old kewl teachers, old traditions (not this new
stuff) etc. "Why can't it just be the SAME as it was!? Wah.." 

And clearly, many of us are exploring lots of new territory. Where my
 view differs from many here I think, is that I see the neo-TMO as
exploring some interesting things. It may have been proved per some
people's various evaluation methods to be absolutely worthless, My
decision and evaluation methods don't yet allow me to do so. 

To me, the neo-TMO has introduced alot of new hypotheses -- new
territories -- that I am glad and happy that someone, some people, are
taking the time and care to check out.  I no longer care to explore
that territory, even the new territory they have found / carved out.
But i will be happy,and partaking, if they ever do find gold in them
black hills. 

For example, I think its kewl that a spiritual tradition is testing
the hypothesis that being initiated into a self-actualization practice
has better results in a particularly, well considered, design of a
building. Buckmister Fuller, who was always rocking on towards new
territory, even in his 80s, would have loved that, IMO. He would be
totally stoked at that hypothesis. I am stoked too -- but too busy,
lazy, or jaded to explore it myself. But I think its kewl to have a
20-40 year experiment and see if any gold shows up in the pan. Its not
likely, as gold panners know, but "It could happen". 

I think its awesome that some group is exploring the effects of doing
40 different widely diverse techniques -- all together , to assess if
this accelerates the unfolding of human potential -- or identify new
aspects of that potential. Again, not for me in the most part, but its
fantastic that someone is doing it.

"But they make outrageous unsupported claims!" you say. True, but
probably not as outrageous and totally unsupported as some may counter
claim. But welcome to the world. There are few organizations who don't
make outrageous and unsupported claims to some degree: gov't,
politicians, universities, professional organizations, product and
service sellers, in dating, in relationships, and in our internal
assumptions and "justifications" for all of our "stuff" habits,
opinions, etc. 

But I know that I am a lone voice in the wilderness here, probably for
quite good reasons.














> Excellent!  Here was my favorite one:
> 
> <Maharishi Vedic Vibration Technology MVVT
> 
> MVVT is for instant relief from chronic disorders. One session for
> each disorder. MVVT can be take by all Meditators and Non-Meditators.
> 
> Course Fee: will be determined based on the type of the disorder and
> the number of disorders.>
> 
> Pure Naga oil, step right up and get your pure Naga oil elixir.
> 
> Instant relief...do you think anyone has gotten their money back when
> it didn't, or was their a bit of the old SIMS shuffle with fancy Vedic
> words when Aunt Millie's gastric reflux was NOT cured by the use of a
> magic word...I mean vibration.
> 
> One session for each disorder folks...I wonder if they would take
> someone's money to instantly cure ED or if is only works for keeping
> the trouser cobra coiled for the person whose chronic disorder is a
> desire for a normal sex life? And if the relief is supposed to be
> instant, would it be reasonable to expect the person to pitch an
> immediate tent on instruction?  I mean, what is the follow up? 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <babajii_99@> wrote:
> > >
> > > TM-Sidhi Course
> > > 
> > > Meditators who have completed successfully the TM course and 
> > > who are practicing the TM technique for more than two months 
> > > are entitled to apply for the TM-Sidhi course.
> > > 
> > > Notice: It is very important to note that this TM-Sidhi course 
> > > will be the last course offered with this older requirement, 
> > > the next TM-Sidhi course will be offered only to the Meditators 
> > > who have completed the TM course and the 4 Advanced Techniques 
> > > (including the Special Night Technique). So it is a very good 
> > > opportunity to take the TM-Sidhi course this time.
> > 
> > 
> > Act now and we will throw in a spectacular
> > set of Vedic steak knives. With handles 
> > fashioned from the best rudraksha beads, 
> > these knives are perfect to keep handy for
> > those times when social requirements force 
> > you to eat holy cows instead of worshiping 
> > them, and you don't want to *totally* blow
> > your karma. 
> > 
> > Each knife, decorated with the image of Lord
> > Shiva on its blade, slices through the meat
> > of Maya with the precision of a Shankara, 
> > mitigating karmas with every bite. No Vedic
> > household should be without a set.
> >
>


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