I dig your stuff New. This one made me think. > "But they make outrageous unsupported claims!" you say. True, but > probably not as outrageous and totally unsupported as some may counter> claim.
I'm not sure what you are referring to here. Pointing to the Emperor and saying " I see his weenie" is not a claim. >But welcome to the world. There are few organizations who don't> make outrageous and unsupported claims to some degree: gov't,> politicians, universities, professional organizations, product and> service sellers, in dating, in relationships, and in our internal > assumptions and "justifications" for all of our "stuff" habits, > opinions, etc. And all deserve to be goofed on including my own desire to believe shit that has no basis. It isn't ever possible to live according to perfect evidence, we end up winging it all the time. But that doesn't give us a pass to just accept the most bold faced bullshittery when it is wrapped in gold foil and delivered in a mincing, lilting accent. And although some like to get political here, I save most of my posts for the movement and my comedic take on their bloviated pronouncements. I really enjoy writing them. If anyone ever reads them it is an unexpected bonus. The movement is a cartoon for me in many ways. I really don't take its premises seriously. I was willing to take another look at the technique and say that I think it can be a valuable resource. But all the "I am that" stuff is just more religious beliefs to me. It might as well be a claim that believing in Jesus as God's son will bring you eternal life. It is a chosen POV on an experience that could be interpreted other ways. Even Maharishi admits that with his rap about the Mahavakyas. It is a POV that needs to be nudged into place by an authority figure. It is optional IMO. I don't know where my POV will land regarding the states of mind brought about through meditation, but I am pretty sure it wont sound like a pronouncement from a "Raja", the king of an imaginary domain. Especially considering the fact that the one thing I place the most value in, TM and its teaching method,(sans puja) is now obviously the lowest priority of the organization. If you aren't already on board hook line and ratna studded sinker, you are not able to join the movement's party. You will have to buy your own eggless sheet cake if you want to wish invincibility and rising Age of Enlightenment on the national day of Tonga. Or come up with $2,500 for a nice way to chill served with a heavy dose of mindfuck. Notice: It is very important to note that this TM-Sidhi course > > > > will be the last course offered with this older requirement, > > > > the next TM-Sidhi course will be offered only to the Meditators > > > > who have completed the TM course and the 4 Advanced Techniques > > > > (including the Special Night Technique). So it is a very good > > > > opportunity to take the TM-Sidhi course this time. Let me guess... Somebody did the books and wrote "lost revenue" next to the advanced techniques column in the spreadsheet. (Meditator hotties are welcome to send their pictures to my yahoo email to see if they are eligible for the "Special Night Technique." After initiation they will also enjoy the "Special Don't Let the Door Hit You on the Ass on Your Way Out the Door" technique, without so much as a glass of orange juice, the following morning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > I know that I am a lone voice in the wilderness here, probably for > quite good reasons (as my view may suck), but I could read these > satires and put-downs as closing the door on exploration. > > I think we all explored a lot of far out, "unproven", not in > peer-reviewed journal stuff. I think most of us still do -- though > perhaps less so. Rolfing, that green swiss soap, rudraksa, coral, > those red nubbly sandals, earth shoes, this and that intestinal and > liver cleansing regime, this or that diet, this book, that book .. is > just a tiny bucket full of stuff scooped up from a vast ocean many of > use hunkered down and considered worthy of exploration back then. All > unproven stuff. Much making outrageous claims. All sort of fun to > explore. > > Walking on the wild-side, exploring new territory, i think is > nourishing, even if it does not pan out. One out of one thousand pans > of sand does have gold in it. > > And I think its good for society, culture, and "the collective". Lots > of explorers scouting the territory -- and once in a while one of the > scouts comes back with a great finding. That doesn't make the other > scouts, or the other territories bad -- or unworthy. > Each are part of the Exploratory/ Expansion process. > > Most of us shudder and perhaps over react to stuff the TMO does, > because we are still trying to expunge our past cluelessness and > "stupidity" of staying within, and exploring a territory, long shown > to be more rocky and sparse, than an overflowing oasis. At least we > didn't see any oasis when we were there. 30 years ago. We stared at > the barren sparse desert too long, and now we are repenting a bit, > vilifying any and everything that now comes forth from that territory. > > Growing up, getting a clue, refining evaluation and decision > capabilities, reducing cogitative biases are all great things that we > have added to our lives in the past 30 years. > > But I hope that process has not put out the fire, the rambunctious > spirit of explorations. "Lets run, not walk, up an over that hill to > see the other side JUST BECAUSE ITS THERE AND WE CAN" -- laughing most > of the way. Thats the spirit I saw and breathed in the early SIMS > days. And we found a lot of good stuff. And a lot of erry skeletons in > the desert. I hope those skeletons are not still scaring us. Or > scarring us. > > And part of the issue, IMO, is that some just wanna live in the good > ol' days in the spirit and form of the old SIMS days. A common refrain > I hear here is "Why don't they just do it the way they USED too!!?? > wah!" -- a la -- old prices, old packages (one thing, not an > integrated package), old kewl teachers, old traditions (not this new > stuff) etc. "Why can't it just be the SAME as it was!? Wah.." > > And clearly, many of us are exploring lots of new territory. Where my > view differs from many here I think, is that I see the neo-TMO as > exploring some interesting things. It may have been proved per some > people's various evaluation methods to be absolutely worthless, My > decision and evaluation methods don't yet allow me to do so. > > To me, the neo-TMO has introduced alot of new hypotheses -- new > territories -- that I am glad and happy that someone, some people, are > taking the time and care to check out. I no longer care to explore > that territory, even the new territory they have found / carved out. > But i will be happy,and partaking, if they ever do find gold in them > black hills. > > For example, I think its kewl that a spiritual tradition is testing > the hypothesis that being initiated into a self-actualization practice > has better results in a particularly, well considered, design of a > building. Buckmister Fuller, who was always rocking on towards new > territory, even in his 80s, would have loved that, IMO. He would be > totally stoked at that hypothesis. I am stoked too -- but too busy, > lazy, or jaded to explore it myself. But I think its kewl to have a > 20-40 year experiment and see if any gold shows up in the pan. Its not > likely, as gold panners know, but "It could happen". > > I think its awesome that some group is exploring the effects of doing > 40 different widely diverse techniques -- all together , to assess if > this accelerates the unfolding of human potential -- or identify new > aspects of that potential. Again, not for me in the most part, but its > fantastic that someone is doing it. > > "But they make outrageous unsupported claims!" you say. True, but > probably not as outrageous and totally unsupported as some may counter > claim. But welcome to the world. There are few organizations who don't > make outrageous and unsupported claims to some degree: gov't, > politicians, universities, professional organizations, product and > service sellers, in dating, in relationships, and in our internal > assumptions and "justifications" for all of our "stuff" habits, > opinions, etc. > > But I know that I am a lone voice in the wilderness here, probably for > quite good reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent! Here was my favorite one: > > > > <Maharishi Vedic Vibration Technology MVVT > > > > MVVT is for instant relief from chronic disorders. One session for > > each disorder. MVVT can be take by all Meditators and Non-Meditators. > > > > Course Fee: will be determined based on the type of the disorder and > > the number of disorders.> > > > > Pure Naga oil, step right up and get your pure Naga oil elixir. > > > > Instant relief...do you think anyone has gotten their money back when > > it didn't, or was their a bit of the old SIMS shuffle with fancy Vedic > > words when Aunt Millie's gastric reflux was NOT cured by the use of a > > magic word...I mean vibration. > > > > One session for each disorder folks...I wonder if they would take > > someone's money to instantly cure ED or if is only works for keeping > > the trouser cobra coiled for the person whose chronic disorder is a > > desire for a normal sex life? And if the relief is supposed to be > > instant, would it be reasonable to expect the person to pitch an > > immediate tent on instruction? I mean, what is the follow up? > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert <babajii_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > TM-Sidhi Course > > > > > > > > Meditators who have completed successfully the TM course and > > > > who are practicing the TM technique for more than two months > > > > are entitled to apply for the TM-Sidhi course. > > > > > > > > Notice: It is very important to note that this TM-Sidhi course > > > > will be the last course offered with this older requirement, > > > > the next TM-Sidhi course will be offered only to the Meditators > > > > who have completed the TM course and the 4 Advanced Techniques > > > > (including the Special Night Technique). So it is a very good > > > > opportunity to take the TM-Sidhi course this time. > > > > > > > > > Act now and we will throw in a spectacular > > > set of Vedic steak knives. With handles > > > fashioned from the best rudraksha beads, > > > these knives are perfect to keep handy for > > > those times when social requirements force > > > you to eat holy cows instead of worshiping > > > them, and you don't want to *totally* blow > > > your karma. > > > > > > Each knife, decorated with the image of Lord > > > Shiva on its blade, slices through the meat > > > of Maya with the precision of a Shankara, > > > mitigating karmas with every bite. No Vedic > > > household should be without a set. > > > > > >
