--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <richardhughes103@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" 
<richardhughes103@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:29 PM
> > > > > To: David Orme-Johnson
> > > > > Subject: New section on TM and Cults posted on Truth About 
TM
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dear Friends and Colleagues,
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > The links below will take you to a new page and subsections 
on
> > > > > www.TruthAboutTM.com <http://www.truthabouttm.com/> , which 
> > presents
> > > > > evidence that the Transcendental Meditation program in not 
> > cult. 
> > > > You can
> > > > > see some of the post below.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > > 
> > > > > David
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----------------------------
> > > > > 
> > > > > Individual Effects
> > > > > 
> > > > > Issue: Is the Transcendental Meditation Program a Cult?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
<http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.c
> > > > fm
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Summary: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The Transcendental Meditation program cannot be called a 
cult 
> > > > because it
> > > > > develops independent, intelligent, creating thinking and 
its 
> > > > founder,
> > > > > Maharishi, has in many ways encouraged personal 
independence,
> > > > > integration with society, and good citizenship.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Contents: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Table Comparing the Transcendental Meditation Program and 
Cults
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
<http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.c
> > > > fm
> > > > > #tablecult> 
> > > > 
> > > > Change the word "programme" to "movement" and then see what 
you 
> > get.
> > > > 
> > > > The TMO is a cult by just about any definition. Here's the 
first 
> > > > dictionary you get in google:
> > > > 
> > > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult
> > > >
> > > 
> > > ".        a particular system of religious worship, esp. with 
reference 
> > to its rites and 
> > > ceremonies."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which system of religious worship with reference to rites and 
> > ceremonies do 
> > > YOU practice when you sit down for 20 minutes x2?
> > 
> > 
> > Actually I said: Change the word "programme" to "movement" and
> > then see what you get, because I'm not convinced you can seperate 
> > the two.
> > 
> > When I say my mantra I'm making a prayer to Lakshmi, and it the 
> > mantra came via a ceremony praising, indeed bowing down before, 
> > all manner of gods, deities, "aspects of natural law" whatever you
> > want to call them it couldn't be any more obvious, once you've 
read 
> > the English translation.
> 
> 
> When I meditate (haven't said my mantra in years), I'm not making a 
prayer
> to anyone. Sounds to me like you're not practicing TM, but some 
faux-hindu
> version you picked up from hanging around faux hindus too long.

You only think you're not. Your mantra is what it is we are told it's
just a meaningless sound but it isn't.

The only faux Hindus I know are the TMO and I don't share any of
their beliefs. The funny thing is they would say they aren't beliefs 
but the truth and that TM is not a religion or cult when, to casual
onlookers, it's stark staringly obvious.

 > 
> > And the TMO considers me initiated. Initiated into what exactly?
> > 
> > And that is before you adopt the highly strange and obviously
> > religious belief system that the TMO will insist is the absolute
> > truth against all the available evidence.
> > 
> 
> Why do you adopt it then?

Didn't, it's all too easily dismantled. Phase transition indeed! 

 
> > Dude, the first stage of escaping cults is realisation that you've
> > been duped in the first place..
> 
> Never been duped. I just don't buy into all the Maharishi-isms.

Hmm Hmmm.

What does the TMO consider us initiated into, do you think?


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