--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:29 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> 
> >> But.... the periods of transcendental consciousness during TM are
> >> NOT correlated with such physiological effects...
> >
> > Oh, so there is transcendence & there is transcendence and TM'ers
> > would not wish to be included with experiences of Spiritual
> > transcendence?
> 
> 
> It's possible that most TMers are not in fact "transcending" in the  
> full sense of that word and are merely experiencing "thought-free"  
> states. The only reason they project the belief that they are  
> "transcending" is because they've been taught/conditioned through the  
> process of TM instruction to associate a "transcendence" belief with  
> this merely thought-free state. Since "transcending/transcendence/ 
> transcendent" are all English words, and thus divorced from the  
> original Sanskrit definition/descriptions, you can make them mean  
> whatever you want to and you can also assign whatever  
> neurophysiological finding you want as well.
> 
> Independent research done on experienced TMers back in the 80's using  
> good science showed there was no shift as now known in actual  
> transcendence (as traditionally described).
> 
> Go figure, huh?
>


Regardless...

" the periods of transcendental consciousness during TM are
NOT correlated with such such physiological effects.."

Therefore the article is wrong. As to whether or not TMers reporting
Transcendental Consciousness are having "real" spiritual experiences or not,
that is a different question.


Lawson



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