--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernha...@...> wrote:
>
> So, I have anger at MMY and the TMO for fucking with the minds of my
> > friends.  I have anger that the MMY was a guru to those close to him
> > but left all the rank and file to deal with their own problems, like
> > "unstressing," while asking them to give all to the movement, making
> > false and exaggerated claims to string them along until they were such
> > true believers that will never give it up.   MMY was ultimately
> > responsible for his movement.
> >
> > If MMY had stuck to 2 times 20 TM, I would be fine.  OK, it's a
> > relaxation technique.  But this quest for the constitution of the
> > universe or the unified field or perfect health or enlightenment,  or
> > the strength of an elephant has gone nowhere fast.  Now the movement
> > is filled with the over 50 crowd.  I hope it dies out. It is sick.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Actually, I have experiences from the TM Sidhis. I also don't
regret 
> all the money and time I spent on all that shit, to the tune of about 
> 135,000 dollars now and growing. It has prevented me from developing a 
> materialistic mentality. I have though also been extremely lucky in
friends 
> and love. So I cannot judge, and I don't think being judgemental is the 
> particular answer Ruth to Maharishi and TMO and all the bogus stuff
piled on 
> top of the 20x2 which I agree was M's real acheivement, without
which, he 
> could not have competed with other gurus of the time, each of which has 
> their 'technique.'
> 
> Some things TM are really good, like not messing with the mind, not 
> concentrating, etc, some things are almost therefore
contraindicatory like 
> yajnas jyotish gems, sidhis, all of which introduce expectation into
the 
> subtle mind.  So in some ways TM all together with the whole package
is very 
> negative, because it produces a state of constant expectation and
therefore 
> unfulfillment. You can see this dissatisfaction in many TMer's words
here.
> 
> It was looking back on my entire development as a person that I have
seen 
> some influence of the sidhis.  Especially as regards the last five
sutras, 
> minus flying. As for being impatient as nowblowus has said, I did
the entire 
> TM package for close to half my life. that was good enough. Time to
move on. 
> Actually, I feel I was smart for unboarding from the Titanic before
it sank.
> 
> I normally don't get into these pro-anti things but I hate the hoi
polloi 
> ganging up and bullying Vaj and others, some of who have always been my 
> favorite writers here. You give a little boy a hint of a sidhi and
watch 
> them gang up on others.
>

You may have the best attitude--don't polarize.  I agree, I don't like
the bullying, whether from the pro or anti crowd.  I'll try to avoid
it.  Thanks for helping me step back a bit. 



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