---There's a limitation with such Neo-Advaitic Gnosis: somebody - some body/mind, has to exist in order to report on that Truism as you have done. No body/mind, then no reportage. The limitation is in the message.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Richardson" <somerse...@...> wrote: > > > Beyond the Universe of Time and Change. > > > > [ their "God" is beyond the universe ] > > > > Never met any of the religionists godo's on my travels. But I did > find something which was beyond the perception and my memory of the > physical universe ME. But there was nobody else there, no godos, > no sons of godos, just me and that divine and wondrous pleroma of > an eternal NOW. And therein I found my SELF, its very first ground of > conscious existence; Primordial Cognition. Hell, and I was not even > looking for it, or anything. Were you made in the same factory? Well, > you find out. > > > > You say there is a limit to what we can know. I guess you are right at > that. But we can sure KNOW or SELF, and when you know that then you know > what your are NOT. And that is the important bit. Hell, I don't even > know how to build a computer, or how to build a rocket. But I know what > I am and from whence I came and why. So that will do me for now. I found > it when I was very young, so I had cope with that all my adult life > and there is more. But best not mention that. > > > > Dick. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> wrote: > > > > Among other possible types of limitations: (Scientific American, p. > > 19, March 2009): > > > > 1. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle (HUP). ..."Heisenberg > > discovered that improved precision regarding, say, an object's > > position inevitably degraded the level of certainity of its momentum." > > > > 2. "Kurt Godel showed that within any formal mathematical system > > advanced enough to be useful, it is impossible to use the system to > > prove evfery true statement that it contains." > > > > 3. "...Alan Turing demonstrated that one cannot, in general, > > determine if a computer algorithm is going to halt". > > > > 4. New theorem of David H. Wolpert, NASA Ames Research Center. > > " ... has chimed in with his version of a knowledge limit. Because > > of it, he concludes, the universe lies beyond the grasp of any > > intellect, no matter how powerful, that could exist within the > > universe." "...no matter what laws of physics govern a universe, > > there are inevitably facts about the universe that its inhabitants > > cannot learn by experiment or predict with a computation". > > > > [brief comment on the last one. To get around such arguments against > > Omniscience, Fundamentalists are fond of saying that their "God" is > > beyond the universe, thus negating Wolpert's theorem. > > But various philosophical arguments can be brought to bear on > > counteracting the Fundies. Some of these will be presented shortly. > > >
