--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote:
> > 
> > > > This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra 
> > > > repetition where mantra continues continuously like a 
> > > > spontaneous thought actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or 
> > > > smriti, just constant ongoing awareness of mantra 24/7/365.
> > >
> > > WRONG. "When we become aware that we are not thinking 
> > > the mantra, then we quietly come back to the mantra. 
> > > Very easily we think the mantra and if at any moment 
> > > we feel that we are forgetting it, we should not try 
> > > to persist in repeating it. Only very easily we start  
> > > and take it as it comes and do not hold the mantra if 
> > > it tends to slip away."
> > 
> > 
> > My god, don't you guys ever get tired
> > of this boring crap?
> 
> 
> Tell me about it. My 'NEXT' button finger
> is almost worn out this morning. :-)
> 
> Yet another round of people *who have never
> practiced any other technique of meditation
> other than TM* declaring over and over, "TM
> is unique!!!" The absurdity of it staggers
> the imagination.
> 
> At least Vaj has *practiced* other forms of
> meditation, and thus has the ability to com-
> pare them to TM. But WHY BOTHER? What is the
> point of making such comparisons for people
> so stupid as to believe that they can declare
> how unlike any other technique of meditation
> (and how superior) TM is, *while never having 
> experienced any other techniques*. 
> 

I never declared that TM was unlike any other technique of meditation nor that 
it was superior. I only know about TM so I can't make that comparison. I don't 
compare it to any other techniques. I only describe the process of the 
technique that I know, TM. Vaj claims that he knows about TM. Based of he 
description of the TM process he makes, which is incorrect, I claim that he 
does not know about TM. He may know a lot about other techniques. Fine. I have 
no idea whether or not they are superior or inferior to TM. That's not the 
point. The point is that it comes to TM, Vaj doesn't know what the hell he's 
talking about. 

> It's like trying to explain what makes paint-
> ings in a museum masterpieces to a group of 
> people whose concept of art *started with and
> stayed with* crayons, and "staying within the 
> lines" in their coloring books. 
> 
> Talking about composition and the differences
> in brush strokes and coloration is kinda silly
> when you're dealing with people who are waving
> a box of Crayolas and screaming "*THIS* is 
> what you use to create Art! And we know because
> we use these crayons every day. We don't have
> to learn any complicated stuff like how to mix
> paints and use brushes. That's for lesser 
> artists, not for us."
>


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