--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <r...@...> wrote:

> Although no group of three meditators is representative of the whole bunch.
> I know plenty of sweet, non-judgmental ones.

Which comes back to my theory of meditaton, that it doesn't really improve 
people in any way that matters to people around them.  It is an internal choice 
of a mental state that is important only to the person who prefers it.  In this 
model we have to ditch every single claim of meditation's benifits to a 
person's social behavior.  But that doesn't mean it doesn't have an internal 
value to the person.  It obviously does, or they wouldn't continue given the 
lack of external, noticeable benifits to people around them.  And I don't 
believe meditation or the fantasy worlds he enjoys have made Nabulous1008 worse 
in any way.  I meet people like him in every field I interact with.  It doesn't 
speak poorly about TM that he acts this way, it is all on him.  TM is just a 
specialness prop.  It could be anything, being the best cat show judge!  You 
should see some of those misanthropes in action. 

So I second the idea that meditators are not worse, or better (my addition) to 
anyone else in the world.  They are the same mix we find everywhere and the 
decades of practice hasn't seemed to have shifted this reality.



>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawk Cam
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Marek Reavis" <reavismarek@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nablusoss1008, the added insult re Curtis in your 
> > comment was entirely gratuitous. I shared with FFL 
> > and you as a member of this online community an 
> > item of interest and beauty and you have detracted 
> > from it with that uncalled for remark.
> > 
> > For what it's worth, there is no one on this forum 
> > for whom I have greater respect and admiration than 
> > Curtis. His current POV re Maharishi and the TMO 
> > and your issues re that POV notwithstanding, he is 
> > your gurubhai and you do yourself and others a 
> > disservice by your insult.
> 
> Here's an exercise for you. Think of 
> Maharishi's term "heaven on earth."
> 
> Now think of that "heaven" being popu-
> lated by people like Nabby, Off, and
> Judy Stein. 
> 
> Anyone sense a slight disconnect there?
> 
> Three peas in a pod, the common denom-
> inator being 30+ years of regular TM,
> which has left them heartless, mean,
> and completely devoid of compassion,
> ethics, and joy.
> 
> Some heaven. 
> 
> I'd join Curtis in Hell any day.
>  
> Although no group of three meditators is representative of the whole bunch.
> I know plenty of sweet, non-judgmental ones.
>


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