On May 6, 2009, at 6:13 PM, sparaig wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:


On May 6, 2009, at 1:27 AM, sparaig wrote:

As I said, we agree to disagree...

Or, to quote a famous anonymous sage: there are as many legitimate i
interpretations of the Veda as there are enlightened persons.


Unfortunately this is one area where the sages of the yoga-darshana
(not "the Veda") are in agreement. Generally the type of people who
subvert the angas are what would in western languages be referred to as "black magicians" or in theosophical lingo "black brothers": give me the magic, let me circumvent the virtues, they will come on their
own, just give me power, NOW.



Is that how you see the TM-Sidhis program?


That is how the yogic tradition perceives the intent of those who try
to skip the angas.


Is that how you perceive the TM-Sidhis program?

Black magicians? It's one possibility but not necessarily in the way you would think of it as. Some masters like to use such techniques to enslave their students so they tend to stick around. So for a disreputable teacher, they have a certain function.

More often though it's just an error in the way the yoga-sutras are taught. SBS certainly agrees, as he clearly states siddhis should trail behind you (i.e. not you chasing after them with formulae). He quite clearly echoes the sentiments of the yogic tradition and the Holy Shankaracharya Order as well.

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