> > Just go in and meditate, Robert, then > > come out and radiate. It's that simple! > > Ben wrote: > thats a bit open ended its more than just "thinking"... > Maybe so, Ben, but that's what the Marshy said. He said it was very simple; an almost automatic technique; he said it was easy to learn how to meditate. Marshy must have said this close to a million times in over forty years of teaching.
Sometimes the Marshy might have phrased it differently, but that's the gist of his definition. This is what he said to me; it's in his numerous books; on numerous tapes and on his videos. > using a dicitonary for "mystical" > terminolgy is fraught with stupidity.... > Well, I suppose that the Marshy used a dictionary for his definition, but I'm not sure. We do know that the Marshy went to school and that he could read, so maybe he borrowed the words from Yogananda books, or maybe not. But in any case, the Marshy was not' stupid' by any means. You're the only person I know, besides Vaj and Sal, on this list, that thinks the Marshy didn't know how to organize a yoga camp or didn't know how to explain the mechanics of consciousness! The Marshy picked the words 'meditation' and 'transcendental', but I'm sure that the Marshy would be the first person to admit the limitations of the English language to describe what he was teaching. But, the Marshy must have thought awhile before he chose to use the English words 'meditation' and 'transcendental' to describe his technique. These words seem to have served his purpose over the years. But the Marshy said his system was not 'mystical', although he may have used some mystical words to describe it. To sum up: Meditation means 'to think things over' and the word transcendental means 'to go beyond'. Both words are in the English dictionary as I pointed out in previous posts. So, I'm not making this up, Ben. But anyone is free to post their own definitions, I guess, if they disagree with the Marshy what the Marshy said or what the dictionary says. But, why not make the definition of TM more understandable and make sense. That's my point. Why are you and Peter and Robert having so much trouble with a simple definition? I'm beginning to wonder if they even know what TM is. If there's no definition, how would anyone know what they're even talking about? The word 'transcend' is a transitive verb, which means: 1 a: to rise above or go beyond the limits of b: to triumph over the negative or restrictive aspects of: to overcome c: to be prior to, beyond, and above (the universe or material existence) 2: to outstrip or outdo in some attribute, quality, or power: to rise above or extend notably beyond ordinary limits. Source: Merriam-Webster: http://tinyurl.com/pppc5s Transcend, go beyond, as in the Buddhist literature: 'cross over to the other side'; reach 'nirvana'; go to the 'other shore', etc., etc. In TM practice, the individual uses the thinking process to go beyond thinking. To 'transcend' the speculative and discursive; to experience directly the field of the Transcendent which is beyond the field of relative knowledge. Just go in and meditate, then you come out and radiate. It's that simple.
