--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: <snip> > Just as a question, is there *anyone* here on > this forum who would like to see Nabby be their > only "supporter?" :-)
Not a question. And even the premise is wrong. <snip> > What *I* see in Judy's position is Classic "I-Want- > To-Believe-In-The-Woo-Woo." It's the very *opposite* > of the axiom that Rick chose for the FFL Home Page: > > "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the > wish to find out, which is the exact opposite." > ~ Bertrand Russell Only Barry the Loser could claim that the above is the "exact opposite" of this: "I think being able to take the 'don't know' position at present is crucial if we're ever to have a hope of figuring any of it out." > Who here believes that Judy really "wishes to find > out?" I, for one, do not. If she were as unattached > to non-Woo-Woo explanations for crop circles as she > was to Woo-Woo explanations for them, she wouldn't > be so defensive. Her ego would not be in play. Ooopsie, you got that backwards. Little nervous, are ya, Barry? And of course Barry's got everything else wrong too, no surprise. What annoys me is not that the skeptopaths won't believe in woo-woo (see my exchange with Curtis on this). It's that they're willfully, proudly ignorant of the facts but are quick to dump on folks who *do* know the facts and aren't quite so sure as they are that there's no woo-woo involved. And while they're busy dumping, the skeptopaths pompously proclaim that they "don't care" about the phenomenon. If they really didn't care, why would they bother to attack those who find the phenomenon interesting? > Others prefer to believe that they are the result of > Forces That We Cannot Understand, and rail against > those who don't buy into the I-Want-To-Believe-In- > The-Woo-Woo mindset as somehow being "threatened" > by the believers in it, or being "challenged" by > them. And still others genuinely Don't Know and don't believe anything either way. *That's* what the skeptopaths find threatening, so threatening that they can't even bring themselves to correctly articulate the position. Instead, they say things like this-- > NONE of them do much of anything for me > aesthetically, and do even less for me in > terms of imagining the "great cosmic minds" > who created them. --when the person they're dumping on has explicitly said she thinks the idea that "great cosmic minds" made the circles is even LESS likely than that humans made them all. (And "great cosmic minds" is Barry's phrase anyway, despite the fact that he put it in quotes as though it had been mine.) I mean, the *contortions* are remarkable. Talk about avoidance! > I don't think we are. I think we are amused by those > who are so attached to believing in Woo-Woo that > they perceive those who don't as "attacking" them, > so much so that their stance needs "defending." > > THEY, after all, are the ones reacting defensively. > > We are not. Says Barry, reacting defensively. <guffaw> What a *loser*.
