--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > Are you so repulsed by gay marriage that you feel
> > > compelled to share your prurient interest with a
> > > link so that we can feel as repulsed as you? You
> > > have missed the point completely if you think that
> > > such images have anything to do with gay marriage. 
> > 
> > Well, actually, the images have EVERYTHING to do
> > with gay marriage (at least MALE gay marriage) and
> > there's no way of getting around it.
> 
> So what *do* such images have to do with male gay
> marriage? Please tell us.
>

It all depends upon whether you're repulsed by them, Judy.

Again, I liken it to what Helms did on the floor of the Senate.  Helms 
approached senators who were not, prior to him approaching them, opposed to the 
funding the NEA was giving those galleries and museums that were sponsoring the 
Mapplethorpe exhibits.  But the funding dried up REAL quick once those senators 
got a gander at some of the Mapplethorpe photos.  They came on board REAL quick.

I see no reason why those who are indifferent or support gay marriage should 
not be exposed to photos of practises of gay relationships if it is so 
acceptable...and if it changes minds, well then, what does that say about their 
convictions?  Not very strong to start off with, I'd say.

Which brings us back to why people took offense at my providing a link to the 
photos.  Why such a visceral reaction?  Why were people so uncomfortable?  

Stanley now says that if I had provided a disclaimer or warning about what 
there was that that would have been okay...and I tend to agree with him that 
that is something I should have done.  If I had done that, Judy, would that 
have been okay in your book?

I'm for people being exposed to what they support. Take abortion, for instance: 
Alan Dershowitz is and has been for more than 30 years a tireless advocate for 
a woman's so-called right to choose.  But he is equally adamant that pro-life 
demonstrators have the right to show huge posters of aborted fetuses to 
prospective patients as they enter abortion facilities.  Free speech and all 
that.

Do I support gay marriage?  Like I say, only if those that support it support 
all other alternative type marriages.  But why not see photos of gay sex if you 
support that (and, yes, you ARE supporting gay male anal sex by supporting gay 
marriage) without getting all hostile towards Shemp for posting a link to it.

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