Shemp. Any Brit knows that quoting the Daily Mail is like quoting the National Inquirer about a flying saucer photographed over the pyramids. Your arguments are a joke.
OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcg...@...> wrote: > > > http://tinyurl.com/ygwbn7v <http://tinyurl.com/ygwbn7v> <http://tinyurl.com/ygwbn7v <http://tinyurl.com/ygwbn7v> > > Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been > no global warming since 1995 > > By Jonathan Petre > <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Jonathan+Pe\ \ <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Jonathan+Pe\ \> > tre> > Last updated at 5:12 PM on 14th February 2010 > > > > * Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing * There > has been no global warming since 1995 * Warming periods have > happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes > [Professor Phil Jones] > Data: Professor Phil Jones admitted his record keeping is 'not as good > as it should be' > > The academic at the centre of the `Climategate' affair, whose > raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that > he has trouble `keeping track' of the information. > > Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom > of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant > papers. > > Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the > observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that > his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping > is `not as good as it should be'. > > The data is crucial to the famous `hockey stick graph' used by > climate change advocates to support the theory. > > > Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer > in medieval times than now suggesting global warming may not be a > man-made phenomenon. > > And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no > `statistically significant' warming. > > The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that > there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change > and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made. > > Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as > director of the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit > after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were > manipulating data. > > The raw data, collected from hundreds of weather stations around the > world and analysed by his unit, has been used for years to bolster > efforts by the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate > Change to press governments to cut carbon dioxide emissions. > > > More... > * MAIL ON SUNDAY COMMENT: The professor's amazing climate change > retreat > <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1250813/The-professor-s-amazi\ \ <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1250813/The-professor-s-amazi\ \> > ng-climate-change-retreat.html> > > > > Following the leak of the emails, Professor Jones has been accused of > `scientific fraud' for allegedly deliberately suppressing > information and refusing to share vital data with critics. > > Discussing the interview, the BBC's environmental analyst Roger > Harrabin said he had spoken to colleagues of Professor Jones who had > told him that his strengths included integrity and doggedness but not > record-keeping and office tidying. > > Mr Harrabin, who conducted the interview for the BBC's website, said > the professor had been collating tens of thousands of pieces of data > from around the world to produce a coherent record of temperature > change. > > That material has been used to produce the `hockey stick graph' > which is relatively flat for centuries before rising steeply in recent > decades. > > According to Mr Harrabin, colleagues of Professor Jones said `his > office is piled high with paper, fragments from over the years, tens of > thousands of pieces of paper, and they suspect what happened was he took > in the raw data to a central database and then let the pieces of paper > go because he never realised that 20 years later he would be held to > account over them'. > > Asked by Mr Harrabin about these issues, Professor Jones admitted the > lack of organisation in the system had contributed to his reluctance to > share data with critics, which he regretted. > Enlarge [Chart] > <http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/13/article-1250872-0847D53D00000\ \ <http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/13/article-1250872-0847D53D00000\ \> > 5DC-535_468x295_popup.jpg> > > > > But he denied he had cheated over the data or unfairly influenced the > scientific process, and said he still believed recent temperature rises > were predominantly man-made. > > Asked about whether he lost track of data, Professor Jones said: > `There is some truth in that. We do have a trail of where the > weather stations have come from but it's probably not as good as it > should be. > > `There's a continual updating of the dataset. Keeping track of > everything is difficult. Some countries will do lots of checking on > their data then issue improved data, so it can be very difficult. We > have improved but we have to improve more.' > > He also agreed that there had been two periods which experienced similar > warming, from 1910 to 1940 and from 1975 to 1998, but said these could > be explained by natural phenomena whereas more recent warming could not. > > > He further admitted that in the last 15 years there had been no > `statistically significant' warming, although he argued this was > a blip rather than the long-term trend. > > And he said that the debate over whether the world could have been even > warmer than now during the medieval period, when there is evidence of > high temperatures in northern countries, was far from settled. > > Sceptics believe there is strong evidence that the world was warmer > between about 800 and 1300 AD than now because of evidence of high > temperatures in northern countries. > > But climate change advocates have dismissed this as false or only > applying to the northern part of the world. > > Professor Jones departed from this consensus when he said: `There is > much debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period was global in extent > or not. The MWP is most clearly expressed in parts of North America, the > North Atlantic and Europe and parts of Asia. > > `For it to be global in extent, the MWP would need to be seen > clearly in more records from the tropical regions and the Southern > hemisphere. There are very few palaeoclimatic records for these latter > two regions. > > `Of course, if the MWP was shown to be global in extent and as warm > or warmer than today, then obviously the late 20th Century warmth would > not be unprecedented. On the other hand, if the MWP was global, but was > less warm than today, then the current warmth would be > unprecedented.' > > Sceptics said this was the first time a senior scientist working with > the IPCC had admitted to the possibility that the Medieval Warming > Period could have been global, and therefore the world could have been > hotter then than now. > > Professor Jones criticised those who complained he had not shared his > data with them, saying they could always collate their own from publicly > available material in the US. And he said the climate had not cooled > `until recently and then barely at all. The trend is a warming > trend'. > > Mr Harrabin told Radio 4's Today programme that, despite the > controversies, there still appeared to be no fundamental flaws in the > majority scientific view that climate change was largely man-made. > > But Dr Benny Pieser, director of the sceptical Global Warming Policy > Foundation, said Professor Jones's `excuses' for his failure > to share data were hollow as he had shared it with colleagues and > `mates'. > > He said that until all the data was released, sceptics could not test it > to see if it supported the conclusions claimed by climate change > advocates. > > He added that the professor's concessions over medieval warming were > `significant' because they were his first public admission that > the science was not settled. > > > > Read more: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Aston\ \ <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Asto\ n\> > ishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.\ \ > html?ITO=1490#ixzz0fYQdHR1C > <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Asto\ \ <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Asto\ \> > nishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised\ \ > .html?ITO=1490#ixzz0fYQdHR1C> >
