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> > wrote:
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> > wrote:
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> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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> > <shempmcgurk@>
> > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "lurkernomore20002000"
> > > > > > steve.sundur@ wrote:
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk"
> > <shempmcgurk@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > "As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was
> > given the
> > > > > > Nobel
> > > > > > > > Peace
> > > > > > > > > > > Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but
> > that
> > > > > > America
> > > > > > > > gave him the
> > > > > > > > > > > White House based on:
> > > > > > > > > > > the same credentials."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it
you
> > find to be
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > objectionable about Obama's presidency so far?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about
Bush:
> > the
> > > > > > deficit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt,
the
> > United
> > > > > > States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National
Debt.
> > That
> > > > > > represents about $700 per person per year.>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the
Bush
> > tax cuts
> > > > > > for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made
this
> > figure
> > > > > > smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at
avoiding
> > taxes by
> > > > > > all legal means, would hardly notice any significant
difference
> > if those
> > > > > > tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars,
plus
> > he hid
> > > > > > the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama
had
> > the war
> > > > > > costs put on the books properly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OffWorld
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false
representations
> > on Ron Paul.
> > > > >
> > > > > You never responded to my previous posts on this subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here. You can't
keep
> > misrepresenting yourself without being called on it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I responded to your questionso on this many times, You never
read
> > the responses, because you do not like facts. Go back and find the
> > responses yourself. I am not answering this AGAIN!
> > > >
> > > > OffWolrd
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No, you didn't.
> > >
> > > Your response to post #243274, in which I demonstrated to you that
Ron
> > Paul's stance on embryonic stem cell research was the COMPLETE
OPPOSITE
> > of what you represented it to be, didn't address anything.
> > >
> > > And where was your respone to post #243273 in which I demonstrated
to
> > you that Ron Paul's position on two of today's biggest issues --
global
> > warming and abortion -- are completely opposite of what you believe?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Umpires needed. Shemp has completely gone off the rails. Does this
below
> > answer Shemp's questions?
> >
> > In answer to your poorly argued attention seeking BS, I already
answered
> > them in these posts. You may not LIKE the answers (you NEVER will),
but
> > I DID answer your dumbass questions.
> >
> > Post 243282 - embryonic research
> >
> > ""Wrong. He is against government funding of it. ""
> ...BUT THAT IS THE NEOCON'S POSITION!!!!!!>>
No they want it outlawed. Ron Paul is all for the scientific research.
> LOOK, THE WHOLE ISSUE ON EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH VIS A VIS THE
GOVERNMENT IS WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS PROVIDING GOVERNMENT
FUNDS. OBAMA IS FOR GIVING FUNDS FOR IT; THE NEOCONS AND RON PAUL ARE
AGAINST IT.
>
>
> > Post 243271 - Scientific evidence
> >
> > ""They (he and Obama) are both for science over religious Neocon
> > fanaticism.""
> >
>
>
>
> EVERYONE IS AGAINST FANATICISM BUT RON PAUL IS ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE
NEOCONS IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
>
>
>
> > Post 243233 - Support for socialist healthcare:
> >
> > ""Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that
> > helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in
an
> > age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be
an
> > organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in
society
> > feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) -- and
that
> > is called socialism. Socialism is the wave of the future.""
> >
>
>
>
> ....AND RON PAUL IS AGAINST SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND OBAMA IS FOR IT.>>
I have never heard Obama say he s for socialized medicine. You have been
brain-washed.
> AND RON PAUL IS THE ANTITHESIS OF SOCIALISM.>
Then why does he support the police force, the schools, firemen, the
military, and other government socialist programs? I thnk Ron Paul is
just confused about what he says. But he was still the best candidate
for the Republicans, but Neocons and warmongers like you pushd him out.
> > Post 243241 - Ron Paul more like Obama than anybody (Like I
explained to
> > you in the past Shemp, Ron Paul just doesn't KNOW that he is pretty
much
> > the same. That is where Ron Paul fails. He, like Sarah Palin,
DOESN'T
> > EVEN REALISE THAT HE IS PRO-CHOICE !He said it in interviews. He
wants
> > no punishment for the woman or doctor. THAT IS PRO-CHOICE you MORON!
)
> (a big Al Gore-like "sigh" here)
>
> CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU WRITE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE, RON PAUL CONSIDERS
ABORTION MURDER AND HAS CALLED FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR DOCTORS WHO
PERFORM ABORTION:>
Obama is against abortion as a personal belief as well, but when Ron
Paul was asked if he would punish the woman or doctor, he said "No".
I told you already that he, like Sarah Palin, are pro-life and he
doesn't even know it. Tha's what he says in interviews. So he is not
smart in some ways. Either that or he is just a liar, saying one thing
to the right wing media, and another to the left. How can you call
abortion murder, but then not want anyone punished for it. It is stupid,
and his greatest failing. But just like Obama, I don't agree with all
hos views. At least Obama is clear on the issues. Ron Paul is not. He
was BY FAR the best of the Neocon bunch that you supported for the
candidacy. His stance on the war, his stance on how the constitution
disallows you pollute someone else, his stance on the printing of money
out of thin air, and policing the world are all very popular policies in
America
> > ""Ron Paul was still in the running at the time. I supported Ron
Paul
> > for leader of the Republican party because he was far better than
all
> > those idiots and criminals that you supported Shemp. But you
warmongers
> > pushed him out and smeared him, so that an old idiot warmonger could
> > shuffle around with some bimbo ,making complete fools of you and
your
> > warmongering hateful ant-social archaic neandhethal friends Shemp. I
was
> > the first on FFL life to support Obama for President. (and that fact
> > just makes you so mad doesn't it Shemp.) ""
>
>
>
> I'M MAD BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED OBAMA?>
Yes, and You are mad that I was the first on FFL to support Obama.
> IN WHAT HAVE I EVER WRITTEN THAT INDICATES THAT I SUPPORT OR WANT TO
SUPPORT OBAMA????????>
Huh? No-one thinks that you support Obama Shemp.
> YOU CAN WIN YOUR LITTLE POPULARITY CONTEST >.
Lest ye forget, you are the one that titled the post in an inflammatory
and childish manner: " Off_World, Bullshit Artist extraordinaire,
can't come clean
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/243819> " - Post
243819
> JUST DON'T SAY HE IS ANYTHING LIKE RON PAUL WHEN HE IS THE EXACT
OPPOSITE OF HIM...AS I CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU AT EVERY TURN.>
They are both against the Iraq war and Guantanomo.
They are both against against corporate control of government.
They are both for science over religious Neocon fanaticism.
They are both support stem cell research.
They are both pro-choice when it comes to the law, even thought they
BOTH are not keen on abortion in their private thinking.
They are more alike than anybody.
I HOPE Ron Paul gets the Republican candidacy, so that you will see
Obama and Ron Paul debate and agree on almost everything. They'll go for
a beer afterwards and laugh about their differences.
OffWorld
