Your link says nothing about which punishment he would give to doctors or women, but in an interview he said he would not punish them.
Case closed. He is pro-choice and he doesn't even know it. This is where he is weak, and has not thought this issue through, although he is right on many other issues, and on the one he holds most dear - anti-war. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcg...@...> wrote: > > If you are going to misrepresent Ron Paul's position on issues, such as you do below with the abortion issue, AND AT THE SAME TIME CUT OUT THE LINK I PROVIDED IN ORDER TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU MISREPRESENTED HIS POSITION, I cannot continue this exercise: > > http://www.ontheissues.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm <http://www.ontheissues.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm> > > Not only is your blatant misrepresentation dishonest, your elimination of the link is, I believe, completely deceitful and lacking in integrity. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , off_world_beings <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , off_world_beings no_reply@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "ShempMcGurk" > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "lurkernomore20002000" > > > > > > > > steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , "ShempMcGurk" > > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was > > > > given the > > > > > > > > Nobel > > > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but > > > > that > > > > > > > > America > > > > > > > > > > gave him the > > > > > > > > > > > > > White House based on: > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same credentials." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it > > you > > > > find to be > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > objectionable about Obama's presidency so far? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about > > Bush: > > > > the > > > > > > > > deficit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt, > > the > > > > United > > > > > > > > States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National > > Debt. > > > > That > > > > > > > > represents about $700 per person per year.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the > > Bush > > > > tax cuts > > > > > > > > for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made > > this > > > > figure > > > > > > > > smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at > > avoiding > > > > taxes by > > > > > > > > all legal means, would hardly notice any significant > > difference > > > > if those > > > > > > > > tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, > > plus > > > > he hid > > > > > > > > the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama > > had > > > > the war > > > > > > > > costs put on the books properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false > > representations > > > > on Ron Paul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You never responded to my previous posts on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here. You can't > > keep > > > > misrepresenting yourself without being called on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I responded to your questionso on this many times, You never > > read > > > > the responses, because you do not like facts. Go back and find the > > > > responses yourself. I am not answering this AGAIN! > > > > > > > > > > > > OffWolrd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, you didn't. > > > > > > > > > > Your response to post #243274, in which I demonstrated to you that > > Ron > > > > Paul's stance on embryonic stem cell research was the COMPLETE > > OPPOSITE > > > > of what you represented it to be, didn't address anything. > > > > > > > > > > And where was your respone to post #243273 in which I demonstrated > > to > > > > you that Ron Paul's position on two of today's biggest issues -- > > global > > > > warming and abortion -- are completely opposite of what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umpires needed. Shemp has completely gone off the rails. Does this > > below > > > > answer Shemp's questions? > > > > > > > > In answer to your poorly argued attention seeking BS, I already > > answered > > > > them in these posts. You may not LIKE the answers (you NEVER will), > > but > > > > I DID answer your dumbass questions. > > > > > > > > Post 243282 - embryonic research > > > > > > > > ""Wrong. He is against government funding of it. "" > > > > > ...BUT THAT IS THE NEOCON'S POSITION!!!!!!>> > > > > No they want it outlawed. Ron Paul is all for the scientific research. > > > > > LOOK, THE WHOLE ISSUE ON EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH VIS A VIS THE > > GOVERNMENT IS WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS PROVIDING GOVERNMENT > > FUNDS. OBAMA IS FOR GIVING FUNDS FOR IT; THE NEOCONS AND RON PAUL ARE > > AGAINST IT. > > > > > > > > > > Post 243271 - Scientific evidence > > > > > > > > ""They (he and Obama) are both for science over religious Neocon > > > > fanaticism."" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EVERYONE IS AGAINST FANATICISM BUT RON PAUL IS ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE > > NEOCONS IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post 243233 - Support for socialist healthcare: > > > > > > > > ""Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that > > > > helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in > > an > > > > age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be > > an > > > > organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in > > society > > > > feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) -- and > > that > > > > is called socialism. Socialism is the wave of the future."" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....AND RON PAUL IS AGAINST SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND OBAMA IS FOR IT.>> > > > > I have never heard Obama say he s for socialized medicine. You have been > > brain-washed. > > > > > AND RON PAUL IS THE ANTITHESIS OF SOCIALISM.> > > > > Then why does he support the police force, the schools, firemen, the > > military, and other government socialist programs? I thnk Ron Paul is > > just confused about what he says. But he was still the best candidate > > for the Republicans, but Neocons and warmongers like you pushd him out. > > > > > > Post 243241 - Ron Paul more like Obama than anybody (Like I > > explained to > > > > you in the past Shemp, Ron Paul just doesn't KNOW that he is pretty > > much > > > > the same. That is where Ron Paul fails. He, like Sarah Palin, > > DOESN'T > > > > EVEN REALISE THAT HE IS PRO-CHOICE !He said it in interviews. He > > wants > > > > no punishment for the woman or doctor. THAT IS PRO-CHOICE you MORON! > > ) > > > > > (a big Al Gore-like "sigh" here) > > > > > > CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU WRITE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE, RON PAUL CONSIDERS > > ABORTION MURDER AND HAS CALLED FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR DOCTORS WHO > > PERFORM ABORTION:> > > > > Obama is against abortion as a personal belief as well, but when Ron > > Paul was asked if he would punish the woman or doctor, he said "No". > > I told you already that he, like Sarah Palin, are pro-life and he > > doesn't even know it. Tha's what he says in interviews. So he is not > > smart in some ways. Either that or he is just a liar, saying one thing > > to the right wing media, and another to the left. How can you call > > abortion murder, but then not want anyone punished for it. It is stupid, > > and his greatest failing. But just like Obama, I don't agree with all > > hos views. At least Obama is clear on the issues. Ron Paul is not. He > > was BY FAR the best of the Neocon bunch that you supported for the > > candidacy. His stance on the war, his stance on how the constitution > > disallows you pollute someone else, his stance on the printing of money > > out of thin air, and policing the world are all very popular policies in > > America > > > > > > ""Ron Paul was still in the running at the time. I supported Ron > > Paul > > > > for leader of the Republican party because he was far better than > > all > > > > those idiots and criminals that you supported Shemp. But you > > warmongers > > > > pushed him out and smeared him, so that an old idiot warmonger could > > > > shuffle around with some bimbo ,making complete fools of you and > > your > > > > warmongering hateful ant-social archaic neandhethal friends Shemp. I > > was > > > > the first on FFL life to support Obama for President. (and that fact > > > > just makes you so mad doesn't it Shemp.) "" > > > > > > > > > > > > I'M MAD BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED OBAMA?> > > > > Yes, and You are mad that I was the first on FFL to support Obama. > > > > > IN WHAT HAVE I EVER WRITTEN THAT INDICATES THAT I SUPPORT OR WANT TO > > SUPPORT OBAMA????????> > > > > Huh? No-one thinks that you support Obama Shemp. > > > > > YOU CAN WIN YOUR LITTLE POPULARITY CONTEST >. > > > > Lest ye forget, you are the one that titled the post in an inflammatory > > and childish manner: " Off_World, Bullshit Artist extraordinaire, > > can't come clean > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/243819 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/243819> > " - Post > > 243819 > > > > > > > JUST DON'T SAY HE IS ANYTHING LIKE RON PAUL WHEN HE IS THE EXACT > > OPPOSITE OF HIM...AS I CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU AT EVERY TURN.> > > > > They are both against the Iraq war and Guantanomo. > > They are both against against corporate control of government. > > They are both for science over religious Neocon fanaticism. > > They are both support stem cell research. > > They are both pro-choice when it comes to the law, even thought they > > BOTH are not keen on abortion in their private thinking. > > > > They are more alike than anybody. > > > > I HOPE Ron Paul gets the Republican candidacy, so that you will see > > Obama and Ron Paul debate and agree on almost everything. They'll go for > > a beer afterwards and laugh about their differences. > > > > OffWorld > > >
