If you are going to misrepresent Ron Paul's position on issues, such as you do below with the abortion issue, AND AT THE SAME TIME CUT OUT THE LINK I PROVIDED IN ORDER TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU MISREPRESENTED HIS POSITION, I cannot continue this exercise:
http://www.ontheissues.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm Not only is your blatant misrepresentation dishonest, your elimination of the link is, I believe, completely deceitful and lacking in integrity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_re...@...> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , off_world_beings <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , off_world_beings no_reply@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "lurkernomore20002000" > > > > > > > steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "ShempMcGurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was > > > given the > > > > > > > Nobel > > > > > > > > > Peace > > > > > > > > > > > > Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but > > > that > > > > > > > America > > > > > > > > > gave him the > > > > > > > > > > > > White House based on: > > > > > > > > > > > > the same credentials." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it > you > > > find to be > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > objectionable about Obama's presidency so far? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about > Bush: > > > the > > > > > > > deficit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt, > the > > > United > > > > > > > States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National > Debt. > > > That > > > > > > > represents about $700 per person per year.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the > Bush > > > tax cuts > > > > > > > for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made > this > > > figure > > > > > > > smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at > avoiding > > > taxes by > > > > > > > all legal means, would hardly notice any significant > difference > > > if those > > > > > > > tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, > plus > > > he hid > > > > > > > the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama > had > > > the war > > > > > > > costs put on the books properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false > representations > > > on Ron Paul. > > > > > > > > > > > > You never responded to my previous posts on this subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here. You can't > keep > > > misrepresenting yourself without being called on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I responded to your questionso on this many times, You never > read > > > the responses, because you do not like facts. Go back and find the > > > responses yourself. I am not answering this AGAIN! > > > > > > > > > > OffWolrd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, you didn't. > > > > > > > > Your response to post #243274, in which I demonstrated to you that > Ron > > > Paul's stance on embryonic stem cell research was the COMPLETE > OPPOSITE > > > of what you represented it to be, didn't address anything. > > > > > > > > And where was your respone to post #243273 in which I demonstrated > to > > > you that Ron Paul's position on two of today's biggest issues -- > global > > > warming and abortion -- are completely opposite of what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umpires needed. Shemp has completely gone off the rails. Does this > below > > > answer Shemp's questions? > > > > > > In answer to your poorly argued attention seeking BS, I already > answered > > > them in these posts. You may not LIKE the answers (you NEVER will), > but > > > I DID answer your dumbass questions. > > > > > > Post 243282 - embryonic research > > > > > > ""Wrong. He is against government funding of it. "" > > > ...BUT THAT IS THE NEOCON'S POSITION!!!!!!>> > > No they want it outlawed. Ron Paul is all for the scientific research. > > > LOOK, THE WHOLE ISSUE ON EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH VIS A VIS THE > GOVERNMENT IS WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS PROVIDING GOVERNMENT > FUNDS. OBAMA IS FOR GIVING FUNDS FOR IT; THE NEOCONS AND RON PAUL ARE > AGAINST IT. > > > > > > > Post 243271 - Scientific evidence > > > > > > ""They (he and Obama) are both for science over religious Neocon > > > fanaticism."" > > > > > > > > > > > EVERYONE IS AGAINST FANATICISM BUT RON PAUL IS ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE > NEOCONS IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. > > > > > > > > > Post 243233 - Support for socialist healthcare: > > > > > > ""Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that > > > helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in > an > > > age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be > an > > > organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in > society > > > feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) -- and > that > > > is called socialism. Socialism is the wave of the future."" > > > > > > > > > > > ....AND RON PAUL IS AGAINST SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND OBAMA IS FOR IT.>> > > I have never heard Obama say he s for socialized medicine. You have been > brain-washed. > > > AND RON PAUL IS THE ANTITHESIS OF SOCIALISM.> > > Then why does he support the police force, the schools, firemen, the > military, and other government socialist programs? I thnk Ron Paul is > just confused about what he says. But he was still the best candidate > for the Republicans, but Neocons and warmongers like you pushd him out. > > > > Post 243241 - Ron Paul more like Obama than anybody (Like I > explained to > > > you in the past Shemp, Ron Paul just doesn't KNOW that he is pretty > much > > > the same. That is where Ron Paul fails. He, like Sarah Palin, > DOESN'T > > > EVEN REALISE THAT HE IS PRO-CHOICE !He said it in interviews. He > wants > > > no punishment for the woman or doctor. THAT IS PRO-CHOICE you MORON! > ) > > > (a big Al Gore-like "sigh" here) > > > > CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU WRITE IMMEDIATELY ABOVE, RON PAUL CONSIDERS > ABORTION MURDER AND HAS CALLED FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR DOCTORS WHO > PERFORM ABORTION:> > > Obama is against abortion as a personal belief as well, but when Ron > Paul was asked if he would punish the woman or doctor, he said "No". > I told you already that he, like Sarah Palin, are pro-life and he > doesn't even know it. Tha's what he says in interviews. So he is not > smart in some ways. Either that or he is just a liar, saying one thing > to the right wing media, and another to the left. How can you call > abortion murder, but then not want anyone punished for it. It is stupid, > and his greatest failing. But just like Obama, I don't agree with all > hos views. At least Obama is clear on the issues. Ron Paul is not. He > was BY FAR the best of the Neocon bunch that you supported for the > candidacy. His stance on the war, his stance on how the constitution > disallows you pollute someone else, his stance on the printing of money > out of thin air, and policing the world are all very popular policies in > America > > > > ""Ron Paul was still in the running at the time. I supported Ron > Paul > > > for leader of the Republican party because he was far better than > all > > > those idiots and criminals that you supported Shemp. But you > warmongers > > > pushed him out and smeared him, so that an old idiot warmonger could > > > shuffle around with some bimbo ,making complete fools of you and > your > > > warmongering hateful ant-social archaic neandhethal friends Shemp. I > was > > > the first on FFL life to support Obama for President. (and that fact > > > just makes you so mad doesn't it Shemp.) "" > > > > > > > > I'M MAD BECAUSE YOU SUPPORTED OBAMA?> > > Yes, and You are mad that I was the first on FFL to support Obama. > > > IN WHAT HAVE I EVER WRITTEN THAT INDICATES THAT I SUPPORT OR WANT TO > SUPPORT OBAMA????????> > > Huh? No-one thinks that you support Obama Shemp. > > > YOU CAN WIN YOUR LITTLE POPULARITY CONTEST >. > > Lest ye forget, you are the one that titled the post in an inflammatory > and childish manner: " Off_World, Bullshit Artist extraordinaire, > can't come clean > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/243819> " - Post > 243819 > > > > JUST DON'T SAY HE IS ANYTHING LIKE RON PAUL WHEN HE IS THE EXACT > OPPOSITE OF HIM...AS I CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU AT EVERY TURN.> > > They are both against the Iraq war and Guantanomo. > They are both against against corporate control of government. > They are both for science over religious Neocon fanaticism. > They are both support stem cell research. > They are both pro-choice when it comes to the law, even thought they > BOTH are not keen on abortion in their private thinking. > > They are more alike than anybody. > > I HOPE Ron Paul gets the Republican candidacy, so that you will see > Obama and Ron Paul debate and agree on almost everything. They'll go for > a beer afterwards and laugh about their differences. > > OffWorld >
