Another thing Feste. You're ignoring the possibility of ongoing repercussion for the anonymous woman who rejected MMY.
I can get that you are having a hard time processing this. But saying "hey, it was 40 years ago...get over it" is not real helpful to anyone except yourself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter L Sutphen <drpetersutp...@...> wrote: > > Feste, the "power differential" I mentioned is fully recognized in ethical > codes in most professional clinical fields. For example, I can not have sex > with a patient regardless of how much the patient wants to have sex with me. > Their choice to have sex with me is not recognized as a truly free choice > because of the power differential. There are psychologist that have tried to > defend their choice of having sex with a patient by claiming they did not > coerce their patient, but the defense never works because of the implicit > power differential regardless of what the patient says. Its similar to a > pedophile claiming that the child they had sex with did not protest therefor > the child was not coerced. Not quite. Implicit and explicit power > differential strips you of free choice to a very large degree. > > Peter > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:50 PM, "feste37" <fest...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > >> > >> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > >> On Behalf Of authfriend > >> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:40 AM > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another woman comes forward > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > >> <snip> > >>> I just can't buy 100% into this victimhood stigma > >>> you wrap these women in. > >> > >> I have to say it bothers me as well. It's one thing > >> to sympathize with a person's pain from the results > >> of a bad choice, and quite another to strip them of > >> any agency in making that choice. > >> > >> Keep in mind that not all of the women acceded to Maharishi's advances. The > >> "other woman" whose letter I posted here recently was propositioned quite > >> unexpectedly and explicitly at the age of 19. She declined his advance, but > >> was surely impacted by it, and is still dealing with the conflict it > >> created. > >> > > > > This is what I don't understand: She rejected his advance and presumably > > that was the end of it, and about 40 years later she is still "healing" > > from this incident? Healing from what? Or is she still in the movement and > > scared of how people will react now if she speaks of her experience? That's > > a rather different matter than still being wounded by something that > > happened so long ago. > > > > There is talk on this board of "power differential" in relationship, as if > > every relationship that has one is by definition wrong or abusive. In my > > experience all relationships have power differentials of one kind or > > another. It's just something people have to assess and deal with. I don't > > see any of these women as "victims" and don't believe they were "abused." > > Someone used the word "coerced" to describe what happened, but that word > > doesn't seem right to me either. The women thought at the time, presumably, > > that having sex with MMY was a good idea, and maybe later they thought > > differently and regretted it. This kind of thing happens all the time in > > relationships, as everyone knows. I don't see why people have to spend 40 > > years "healing" from it. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
