What would you actually recommend to a person wanting to learn meditation? Do 
you recommend a book? Anything of Rama? I think you said that you wouldn't need 
to require personal instruction or an elaborated course. I sometimes meet 
people, and I cannot follow them up, they ask me for advise how to meditate. (I 
had this Russian lady driving to the airport yesterday).

I may even initiate somebody TM style again, after so many years, some friend 
asked me for it, so I guess I will probably do it, without money, org, and 
leaving all dogma aside.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> [ Caveat: What follows is my opinion, and in fact my 
> considered opinion, arrived at after decades of being
> part of the TMO from the inside and observing it and
> its members from the outside. You are well within your
> rights to believe something else, because after all, it 
> is nothing BUT opinion. But so is what you believe. ]
> 
> I figured that, on the heels of my "Echo Chamber Effect"
> post, I should delineate some of the ways in which I 
> think TMers have, in fact, been indoctrinated to believe
> certain things, disbelieve others, and adopt a funda-
> mentalist defensive stance towards the former and an
> offensive, "attack mode" stance towards the latter.
> This is how I view the "TM Learning Process," after
> having participated in it and observed it for 44 years:
> 
> 1. You are taught to meditate, having been "pre-taught"
> exactly what is going to happen when you meditate, and
> how you "should" interpret what happens. Periods of 
> thought stopping are not "just" thought stopping; they
> are "transcendence," merging with the Home Of All Know-
> ledge, entering into a "higher" state of consciousness.
> 
> 2. Your "innocent experience" of TM (which is anything
> but) is then followed up by three nights of indoctrin-
> ation into *more* of "what your experience 'really'
> means and how to interpret it." You are told that not
> only is each meditation an experience of some mystical
> "universal field" of consciousness, doing it regularly
> is your only real way to eventually experience an even
> "higher" state of consciousness, enlightenment. You 
> are told what enlightenment "means," and told that it
> is the "highest goal" anyone could ever aspire to.
> 
> 3. In the three nights of checking, and every time you
> walk into a TM center after that, you are encouraged
> to "learn more." That is, you are encouraged to attend
> hour after hour of lectures on -- essentially -- Hindu
> thought and theories, "sanitized for your protection" 
> by describing them as "Vedic" thought. At no point are
> any of these concepts presented *as* theories; they
> are presented as Truth, the "highest knowledge" avail-
> able on the planet.
> 
> 4. After a few of these "advanced lectures, you are
> encouraged to attend residence courses, during which
> you "round" (meditate so often that you are considered
> so spaced out and such a potential danger to yourself
> and others that you are not allowed to leave the 
> facility in which the residence course is being held).
> You are also forced to sit in front of TVs and watch
> hours and hours of additional indoctrination on Hindu
> thought and concepts, many of them delivered by 
> <genuflect> Maharishi Himself.
> 
> 5. By putting "Maharishi Himself" in scare quotes, I 
> am hoping to capture the way that MMY is presented to
> new students. That is, as the ultimate authority, an
> enlightened being whose every word reflects the Truth
> about the world and how it works. Even if it's not
> expressed in words, the deference and sense of obeis-
> ance that the TM teachers feel towards him is conveyed
> subconsciously to the students, so much so that when
> they first have an opportunity to meet him, they 
> cannot conceive of doing so except in the "accepted"
> manner -- standing in a line and deferentially offer-
> ing him a flower. By the time they actually do meet
> him, they can no longer even conceive of *challenging*
> any of the things he says; the lesson has been driven
> home to them by this time that such behavior is 
> inappropriate and disrespectful. If Maharishi says
> it, it's not only true, but Truth.
> 
> 6. Then (at least in the past), if you want to "dive
> further" into the TM "knowledge," you have to take SCI.
> Which is basically the equivalent of being forced to
> sit in front of hours and hours and hours of the most 
> boring and pretentious drivel you have ever seen on
> television, while pretending that it isn't boring.
> More indoctrination into "Just STFU and let the
> waves of Ultimate Truth wash over you."
> 
> 7. All along the way, TM is never once presented as
> just another spiritual path; it is always presented
> as The Best such path, the "highest path." The TM 
> teachers, in fact, respond to questions about other 
> paths (including the path taught by the real Shank-
> aracharya tradition MMY comes from) by putting them 
> down, as they were taught to do on their TTCs.
> 
> 8. Other sources of information about meditation or
> the spiritual path are systematically put down and
> demonized, and accessing them actually punished. I 
> have seen several people told that they were not 
> allowed to attend long residence courses or go TTC 
> because they had "the wrong kinds of books" on their 
> bookshelves, or admitting to having read such Off
> The Program books. This is *still* being punished 
> in Fairfield and in other official TM locations as 
> those who dare to actually go see some other spiritual 
> teacher are declared heretics, and excommunicated. 
> The lesson being taught is simple and obvious -- 
> "Only *we* have the 'right' answers and interpret-
> ations about spiritual practice; listening to anyone 
> else's answers or interpretations is dangerous for 
> you and will not be tolerated.
> 
> 9. All along the way, subjective experience is 
> presented as tantamount to "proof." And this is done
> while ignoring completely that almost all of the
> interpretations *of* TMers' subjective experiences
> were generated *after* having been indoctrinated
> into what such experience "really mean." Think about
> the ludicrous scene on IA courses, in which Maharishi
> came up with a new buzzphrase experience, and the 
> next week dozens of people walk up to the microphone
> to announce that they have "had" such experiences.
> Pure programming, and by people who *don't even
> realize* that they've been programmed.
> 
> 10. Any criticism of TM, the TMO, and Maharishi is
> characterized by TM teachers as an "attack," and
> students are encouraged to view it as an attack on
> *them* as well, and to respond to it with counter-
> attack. The TMO "party line" when dealing with any
> critic is to attempt to portray them as "having an
> agenda" or "attempting to destroy what we all know
> is the 'highest teaching.'" After seeing this 
> behavior modeled for them by the TMO as an organ-
> ization and by TM teachers as a group, naturally
> the students start to display this behavior, too.
> 
> 11. The idea that there is a "right" way to describe
> experiences during TM or spiritual concepts is drummed
> into the students' heads, and punished by disfavor or
> mockery if they dare to describe such things differ-
> ently. Soon they start 'piling on' to other students
> to mock them when they express things "wrongly."
> 
> 12. The most far out, Woo Woo nonsense is presented
> as if it's normal, and the people who believe in it
> normal. Belief in astrology, the Woo Woo effects of
> which side of your house the door is facing, or which
> way your head faces when you sleep. Belief in siddhis
> or "special powers" that no one has ever seen any
> evidence of are presented as normal, and so often
> that the people sitting in lecture halls sucking all
> of this up come to believe that they *are* normal.
> 
> 13. At some point, the siddhis are trotted out, at
> the point when the students have been so thoroughly
> taught to believe in Woo Woo as if it were normal
> that they no longer react rationally when told that 
> they are going to learn how to FLY, ferchrissakes. 
> Rather than laugh, they buy into it, and plunk down 
> their money. Platitudes are told to them about how 
> they might not FLY through the air immediately, and 
> that they might spend a little time in the "first 
> stages of Yogic Flying," but it is always assumed 
> that Yes, someday they will really FLY. By this time, 
> the brainwashed dweebs in the audience actually buy 
> this.
> 
> 14. Moving behind the closed walls of TM communities
> starts to become encouraged. Despite the fact that
> TM was first sold to them as a way to interface more
> effectively *with* the world, moving *out* of the
> world and into a TM Echo Chamber community is now 
> presented to them as the only way they can make 
> significant spiritual progress. 
> 
> 15. The road goes ever on. That is, just as in The
> Hobbit, the goal constantly becomes further and further
> away. Newer and "higher" states of consciousness or
> abilities are announced, to attain which you must 
> attend such-and-such course and pay such-and-such 
> additional amount of money. Each one is presented as 
> "the course that will finally do it for you," and by 
> this time the indoctrination is so ingrained that no 
> one notices when it isn't, or remembers when the next 
> such course is announced that the previous one did 
> nothing for them except drain their bank accounts.
> 
> I could go on and on, but I suspect that anyone whose
> mind is still open enough to have read this far gets
> the point. There is one enormous SHITLOAD of indoc-
> trination in the way that TM is taught. My contention
> is that this indoctrination has gone on for so long,
> and has been tolerated (if not embraced) by many on 
> this forum for so long that they are actually in 
> denial that it ever took place. 
> 
> But it did. And that's why you believe the things
> that you do. It's NOT that they are inherently true,
> or Truth. It's that you have been told they are,
> and you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
> 
> It's fine to continue to believe that they are, but
> shouldn't you at least be willing to admit that the
> reason you believe the things you believe is that
> you've been *told* to believe them, systematically,
> for decades? If you can't, in my view that charac-
> terizes you as not only a fundamentalist, but a 
> fundamentalist in denial.
>


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