For heaven's sake. How do you know that they are chakkras? How do you discriminate at all if you are in PC?
SIghs and shakes head. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am sorry that this is your impression. But you should consider that I > > > said this to Lawson, and that he jumped on the thread as they were in the > > > end of the message view, without really having the whole context of our > > > discussion. > > > > > > > I'm sorry to see that. I had thought you were one of the > > > > very few TM critics around here who had enough self- > > > > confidence not to need to engage in that kind of behavior > > > > when having discussions with TMers. Hopefully you're just > > > > having a bad day or two. > > > > > > Actually, while having very busy days indeed, I had extremely good days. > > > The experiences I talked to you about, I had just now, and I contrasted > > > them to what I knew from my TM years - many years. > > > > > > There is really a stark contrast - not just a gradual one. Not that one > > > is just the magnification of what I thought of as transcendence before, > > > it is totally different IME. That lets me evaluate my own past > > > experiences in a different light. > > > > > > How can there be difference in nothing? > > It's not totally nothing, that would be nihilism. It is in fact the amount of > awareness that is different. You have heard of flat transcendence and lively > transcendence? > > > If you are saying that your mind is less noisy now then it was then, that's > > ok, but my experience has been that the more silent I become, the more I > > realize that silence has always been there. > > I am not speaking of noisiness. In TM it was embedded in a cycle. and it was > much shorter. I also did not call it PC per se, I was rather responding to > Judy calling her experience transcending, and then going on to pick up her > mantra. I had the same, just sit down and whoop!, but as I said, there is no > way to pick up the mantra in that state, or even continue a cycle of > meditation. > > Yet, there is subtle perception. I am aware, as I mentioned of the chakras. > For example there is a strong pull from the Ajna, there is a fine current > leading up to Sahasrara, and a subtle current from the heart. At the same > time there is bliss and the feeling of a sublime beauty. Basically my > position is that of an observer. I could stand up,and walk around, but I > would have to force myself. On other occasions it just struck me out of the > blue, while walking around in a city, in busy bazar-like lanes. > > > > How is it that you remember less silence now? > > > > > It seems to me now, that the transcendence experience in TM was more partial, > usually didn't last that long. > > > Lawson > > >
