Alex Stanley: > I don't know because I don't really grok determinism... > Turq and Vaj seem to be confused. In their zeal to discredit Judy, they seem to have taken the idealist position and opposed the scientific reasoning. Wasn't it just a few months ago that Turq made fun of his own brother's idealism?
Go figure! Determinism means that events happen for a reason - there are no chance events. Anything that happens is determined by prior events - cause and effect. Determinism has nothing to do with God or self-determinism of human actions, decisions, or desires. Free will in contrast is a metaphysical notion which postulates that an agent can make religious and ethical choices. Ethics has to do with coexistence with an omnipotent diety that one can be held morally responsible for their own actions.