--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > Creating a combative perspective out of nothing. > > > > Five posts in the first couple of hours of the new posting > > week. Two trying to start a fight with you, one trying to > > start a fight with Vaj, one trying to start a fight with > > do.rflex, and one (go figure!) trying to start a fight > > with JohnR. Five out of five, ALL trying to (as you say) > > create a combative perspective. > > My comments are general, not in reference to any poster. The > phenomenon of looking for an opportunity, anywhere, to vent, > blow up, get angry and/or disparage is pretty common. I have > observed it throughout my life in parents, bosses, peers, > friends, etc. And have experienced my self from time to time. > Its a trans-rational state. No rational response can sooth > such a soul in that state. Almost any response simple throws > fuel on the flames. > > Eckart Tolle goes into this phenomenon -- using his model of > the "pain body" -- which I read as the networked mass nexus > of active samskaras. When such dominates, or builds up > extensive pressure, some external target is needed to release > it. Some thing that will absorb the current, or ground it, > using electricity as a metaphor. > > The one thing that I have found that works, to a degree, is > simple don't react to it. Don't resist it. Just ignore it > and move on. OTOH, if one engages a person in such a state, > it often makes one own pain body flair and then you have > two irrational flaming blobs of pain trying to use the > other as a grounding or conductor to release all of that > intense energy within. > > There can be a certain avoidance feeling, perhaps a subtle > fear or discomfort being in the presence of such a person, > the apprehension of getting dragged into a unprovoked, > irrational fight. It seems as if the "Painer" can often > smell that subtle apprehension/fear, like a tiger does > (at least in urban myth land). > > Understanding the dynamic, and knowing that the only refuge > is non-resistance, non-reaction, and the willingness to > calmly let their energy get released, flow over and out > of you, not getting in you -- no absorbing of that energy -- > creates a calming vibe upfront. And even some compassion. > Understanding the dynamic, and knowing its not "them" but > just that their pain body is exploding. > > In that mode, the Painer doesn't smell any fear (actually > I think its an auric thing, there aura is attracted to the > fear component in your aura -- but that is mystical > speculation). They tend to move on, looking for a better > dumping ground for their garbage.
Very wise and well-stated post. I have nothing to either question in it or add to it. But, as I suggested to Vaj earlier, maybe we're overthinking it. Maybe it's much simpler than that, and this whole combative perspective thang is just being a New Yorker? :-)