--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Creating a combative perspective out of nothing.  
> > 
> > Five posts in the first couple of hours of the new posting
> > week. Two trying to start a fight with you, one trying to
> > start a fight with Vaj, one trying to start a fight with
> > do.rflex, and one (go figure!) trying to start a fight
> > with JohnR. Five out of five, ALL trying to (as you say)
> > create a combative perspective.
> 
> My comments are general, not in reference to any poster. The 
> phenomenon of looking for an opportunity, anywhere, to vent, 
> blow up, get angry and/or disparage is pretty common. I have 
> observed it throughout my life in parents, bosses, peers, 
> friends, etc. And have experienced my self from time to time. 
> Its a trans-rational state. No rational response can sooth 
> such a soul in that state. Almost any response simple throws 
> fuel on the flames. 
> 
> Eckart Tolle goes into this phenomenon -- using his model of 
> the "pain body" -- which I read as the networked mass nexus 
> of active samskaras. When such dominates, or builds up 
> extensive pressure, some external target is needed to release 
> it. Some thing that will absorb the current, or ground it, 
> using electricity as a metaphor. 
> 
> The one thing that I have found that works, to a degree, is 
> simple don't react to it. Don't resist it. Just ignore it 
> and move on. OTOH, if one engages a person in such a state, 
> it often makes one own pain body flair and then you have 
> two irrational flaming blobs of pain trying to use the 
> other as a grounding or conductor to release all of that 
> intense energy within.
> 
> There can be a certain avoidance feeling, perhaps a subtle 
> fear or discomfort being in the presence of such a person, 
> the apprehension of getting dragged into a unprovoked, 
> irrational fight. It seems as if the "Painer" can often 
> smell that subtle apprehension/fear, like a tiger does 
> (at least in urban myth land). 
> 
> Understanding the dynamic, and knowing that the only refuge 
> is non-resistance, non-reaction, and the willingness to 
> calmly let their energy get released, flow over and out 
> of you, not getting in you -- no absorbing of that energy -- 
> creates a calming vibe upfront. And even some compassion. 
> Understanding the dynamic, and knowing its not "them" but 
> just that their pain body is exploding.  
> 
> In that mode, the Painer doesn't smell any fear (actually 
> I think its an auric thing, there aura is attracted to the 
> fear component in your aura -- but that is mystical 
> speculation). They tend to move on, looking for a better 
> dumping ground for their garbage.

Very wise and well-stated post. I have nothing to 
either question in it or add to it. 

But, as I suggested to Vaj earlier, maybe we're
overthinking it. Maybe it's much simpler than that,
and this whole combative perspective thang is just 
being a New Yorker?

:-)


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