--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" <jpgillam@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I found [witnessing] incredibly liberating, a
> > > sense of having dropped all the baggage I had been
> > > lugging around, a huge feeling of relief, most
> > > definitely "something good." But the first time I had
> > > the experience, I didn't realize it was witnessing.
> > > That didn't even occur to me until it was well past.
> > 
> > Same thing for me, Judy.  My first witnessing experience 
> > occurred before I even learned TM.  I was about 18 and 
> > knew something very different had happened for a few 
> > hours.  And during it I felt terrific in every way and 
> > functioned really well.  I had no name to give it, but will 
> > never forget it. Without any spiritual construct I knew I 
> > liked that experience. - and preferred it to my typical 
> > state.  It seemed a way to go through life that was so 
> > very easy and effortless while still doing the usual stuff.
> 
> What word would you use to describe that experience? 
> What term did you use before learning about witnessing?
> 
> I ask because it relates to a previous conversation in which 
> I elicited terms for being "with it" or "on." Barry had suggested 
> "openness." And the term "presence" is gaining currency; I 
> saw it in a New Yorker cartoon recently and thought that may 
> be the default term people will start using for having one's center
> in the non-changing self, as opposed to being centered 
> in one's thoughts and feelings.
> 
> Thanks.
>

At the time I did not give it a single name and did not feel the need to.  I 
just thought of it as an amazing time where I felt totally my self and my best 
self possible that I knew I always had inside -  and then some.  I felt in tune 
with everything and everyone, completely open to life, no defenses or 
extraneous thoughts, just being.  I actually prefer the wordy description I 
just gave to the term "witnessing," which does tend to lump experiences into a 
box.  But labeling these experiences certainly is handy in discussions and 
simplifies things, as long as we all agree on the underlying basics - a big 
assumption I guess.  I like "presence."  Or having "one's center in the 
non-changing self" is excellent.


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