On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:31 PM, wayback71 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" <yifuxero@...> wrote:
Right! Looks to me that Vaj hates TM, for one reason or another.
(re: somebody else's comment that he doesn't hate it).
Why?, possibly, out of jealousy.
I doubt that. I still do TM, but really, what's to be
jealous of about TM or the TMO?
Esp. since, as I've stated several times before, I actually had a
very good and clear experience with TM.
Lot's of nasty stuff coming out about MMY and the org - and much
poor quality research. An organization in which the average age is
continuing to rise since few new people learn. Many more people
are interested in Buddhism and various mindfulness techniques these
days - it is much more mainstream than TM and has many really
together scientists and therapists advocating for it, and doing so
while speaking plain old English without TM like jargon. They
teach mindfulness in hospitals nationwide.
True.
I think Vaj genuinely believes that TM, MMY and the
siddhis are not legit in the sense that the tradition from which
MMY came does not honor MMY, there is no understanding of how to
help someone grow if they encounter some difficulties, and he
thinks the whole technique is suspect. He seems to feel that TM
can produce some significant problems for many people - and it may
be having people close to him seriously injured while doing TM that
is motivating him.
Of course, part and parcel of that is if you have TM diksha and enjoy
TM, without side effects and use good common sense, it's probably
best to stick with your TM.
However, some of what he objects to in TMO is the same crap
that you find in just about any spiritual organization, including
Buddhism. It's the nature of the beast and of human nature.
Power, sex, money, groupies, needing to convince others of your
way, idealizing the teacher and putting your own common sense on
hold, etc etc. And he sometimes compares TM with Buddhism when the
comparison can't be made - since he holds up Buddhism as the
template and then points out where TM doesn't measure up.
I try to compare TM to my own experiences with Shank order gurus and
lines, rather than across ways of seeing--but sometimes the
inevitable "side-by-side" comparison is helpful, esp. re: meditation
science.
