--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote [regarding Rick Archer's post]:
I agree that this is a nicely done, low-key rap, and I commend whoever wrote it for that. I might have some writerly quibbles about some of the language, like "CC arrived" and "had come," because my similar experiences, although more fleeting, had no sense whatsoever of there being anything new, anything that had "arrived" or "come." It was more like finally noticing what had always already been present, every minute of my life. What I'd be interested in, if this person ever feels like writing it up, is whether he/she can pinpoint any ways in which this subjective realization has been of benefit to anyone else. That's the "missing component" of pretty much all of the raps about enlightenment I run across. It's almost as if the process of "self realization" can be described more accurately as "selfish realization" in most of them. All that seems to "matter" is the person's subjective sense of their own subjective state of consciousness. We never hear of ways in which this subjective state proves itself of value to anyone else in the objective world. I'd like to hear more about that. Enlightenment, or any kind of realization for that matter, is simply recognizing what is the case. How this experience develops varies from person to person. Some experience it all at once, others may experience it in various stages. It is internal and subjective, you cannot see it on the outside, though you can infer certain things from what a person says sometimes. Also we all speak in the language and manner with which we are most familiar; a person who grew up in the shadow (or the light) of the TMO will probably not speak of experience in terminology common to another sector of the enlightenment game. But as it is subjective, a change of perception and understanding, it is internalâ€"who else is going to know about it, unless the person who has the experience decides to say something about what was experienced? How this gets out to others is a function of how one grows into living the experience for in many ways these experiences are like being born, one is in a new world, even if it is just the same old world, but one has to become accommodated to this change in experience before it might make an impact on others, which means one must find a way to express the experience in a manner that others can in some way get a handle on, and it may take some longer to settle into to what happened. There is no law that says you must talk about it, or storm the world to bring the experience to everyone, as everyone already really has it. I think Mr. Archer did well to describe this experience. If I were to describe mine, it would not be the same way, some similarities maybe, a lot differences, for sure.
