On May 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bhairitu
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness
>  
> Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on 
> and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing, 
> as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come "out" of 
> meditation and that the experience of the transcendence was there along 
> in activity. It might be a mild experience of it but it *is* there. 
> And more particularly over time should grow. So some of these things 
> are "flash" experiences or a spike in the experience but I wouldn't say 
> they "popped into CC". They were already there.
> 
> TM'ers seem to be in this mode that only a few achieve enlightenment but 
> I found in India people expected folks practicing sadhana to get there 
> and it was not that uncommon.
>  
> In my experience talking to people, some experience a clear demarcation, but 
> most ooze into it. You can get wet getting caught in a sudden downpour, or 
> you can get wet walking in a heavy mist. Either way you’re wet, but in the 
> latter case, you can’t really say when it happened.

Then they might be experiencing growing awareness or just relaxation, but it 
very likely not turiyatita. The transition to CC or turiyatita, at least the 
way yogis have been experiencing it for thousands of years is described as a 
"violent digestion". Not "It seemed so delicate, fragile, almost shy. I did not 
expect it to last." While poetically beautiful and it's nice to hear people 
experiencing relaxation and enjoyment, it's also important not to jump to 
exaggerations, flights of quiet fancy or beliefs one's merely acquired and 
grafted onto obsessions.

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