Well if yet more unverifiable claims~~ie opinions~~
are what constitutes "a very strong case" in *your*
opinion, feste...I sure hope I never have you on my
side of the defense table, so to speak.
Sal

On May 26, 2011, at 7:50 AM, feste37 wrote:

Have you even read the posts by Richard you quote here? He presents a very 
strong case against all the accusations made by Vaj. Read it. All you do is try 
to smear him as "unstable," which is plainly not the case.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@...> wrote:
> 
> Here are Richard's "facts," Jim, or at least 
> all the ones I've seen lately~~perhaps you could post
> the ones I've missed:
> 
> "Hi, Richard here.  Since this was originally written to me, I thought I 
> would chime in.
> I will take responsibility for adding my negative comments about Vaj where 
> they were not necessary.  After all, the post was about Jerry Jarvis and not 
> a response to Vaj.  So therefore, as I said earlier, it may have been 
> inappropriate
> I was confused and angry about the fact that no one here seemed to challenge 
> Vaj on his "facts" for so long, that I felt compelled to say something and 
> may have over reacted.
> But, be clear... I am not a movement true believer and did not make my 
> comments to defend Maharishi or the movement.  I just wanted the facts to be 
> brought out and let the chips fall where they may."
> 
> "Vaj,
> You ignorant slut,
> 
> What is wrong with you? And why do make this shit up?  Its complete lies.
> 
> Don't you know that Dr. Raju was MMY's personal physician for years and has 
> been the head physician at a Maharishi ayurveda hospital in Delhi for many 
> years?  If your story had any truth in it, Dr. Raju would not be working at a 
> Maharishi Ayurveda facility which uses the "stolen" formulas.  He would have 
> nothing to do with the TM movement or its branches because he would feel that 
> MMY was a thief.  But yet, there he is.  
> Have you ever met Dr. Raju?  Been to his hospital?   Of course you haven't.  
> Because if you had, you would know that as soon as you walk in the door, 
> there is a huge picture of MMY and in Dr. Raju's office, same thing. If Dr. 
> Raju thought MMY was a thief I don't think he would be sitting there with 
> MMY's picture and greeting you with "Jai Guru Dev".  
> 
> As usual, you just make these things up, and quote them as if they are facts. 
>  Then when confronted on your statements, you run away like a little girl and 
> never respond when criticized.
> 
> Vaj, you are a liar and have serious issues.  Why do you have so much hate 
> inside you?"
> 
> "Vaj,
> You coward!  As usual, no response when someone points out your lies!
> You love to pontificate your supposed "knowledge", but you just make it up.  
> Come on, lets debate or discuss the facts.  Don't just run away like the 
> coward you are.
> 
> You know nothing of Balaraj or Raju's relationship with Maharishi.
> And yet you assume you know that Maharishi "stole" the formulas
> 
> The same way you "know" that Maharishi poisoned Guru Dev, which I have 
> already pointed out previously is a lie.
> 
> Again I ask... why do you have so much hate in your heart that you have to 
> try to hurt MMY's reputation any way you can.
> 
> I have no problem if you have an opinion about who MMY was and what he has 
> done.  But why must you constantly make your opinion into supposed "facts"?
> 
> So one more time... Whats wrong with you? "
> 
> "Oh Yeah, that's right.. you have such a conscience!  You lie, make shit up 
> and have the nerve to say you have a conscience!
> 
> And again for the record.  MMY was NEVER a prime suspect in the supposed 
> poisoning of Guru Dev. As I previously pointed out, I have been in Allahabad 
> many times and interviewed the judge who handled Guru Dev';s will and many 
> others associated with Shankaracharya ashram.  None of them knew anything 
> about this supposed poisoning,  so how could MMY have been a prime suspect?  
> You haven';t been there but speak as if you have been  STOP MAKING SHIT UP!! 
> Have you opinion, fine.  But again I am wondering, why you must lie to prove 
> that your point of view is the correct one?
> You must have been really hurt by someone as a child."
> 
> I mean, with evidence and clear thinking like that, it's no wonder
> Vaj has no response!  All this because Vaj wrote a few dozen
> words expressing his opinion on something  MMY supposedly 
> did~~stole medicines or formulas or whatever from 
> Balraj M.  That's called "opinion" guys, no matter
> how someone might express it.  Jim and lurk, you feste and
> the others in the anti-Vaj camp definitely need a new spokesperson.
> Or not, your choice.  But egging on someone like Richard
> who is clearly unstable isn't nice.
> 
> Sal
> 
> On May 26, 2011, at 6:29 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> 
> Comparing the facts of richardnelson108, based on actual events he witnessed 
> with Vaj's imaginings, and you call them equivalent? You recently said I had 
> the intellectual depth of a turnip. I'm sorry but I cannot even grant you 
> that much mental capacity. Your shriveled heart and blinding ego have created 
> in you a spiritual moron.


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