On May 28, 2011, at 9:39 AM, sparaig wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote:
>> 
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardnelson108" <richardnelson108@> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> <Snip>
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>>> You, on the other hand, have this buring desire to make him the devil, even 
>>> though you say you have "transcended" your TM practice. 
>>> Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I believe Vaj's contributions here are more sincere than that.  If you 
>> accept the premise that there really IS a tradition of knowledge of yoga, 
>> and if you believe that Maharishi has corrupted it, then it all makes sense 
>> why Vaj would care.  It comes from taking the knowledge very seriously.  
>> 
> 
> "A" tradition? Please.

TM literature and research claims that it comes from an imagined "Vedic 
tradition", when in fact, none of the mantras used in TM occur in Rig Veda. In 
fact the mantras are actually tantric.

There are people who think and believe great spiritual traditions come from the 
Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians or the Bavarian Illuminati. They've founded 
organizations which claim to initiate folks into these alleged mysteries. But 
the fact they've created such organizations and have had great financial 
success at getting people to seek initiation in them, does not make such 
imaginary orgs legit.

> MMY always portrayed his "technique" as a revival of something lost.

Of course he did. He loved to self-promote and advertise his version as 
"something special" - and himself as "someone special"; read: Great Rishi 
rediscovers mantric cogitation, news at 11.

> For those who don't believe anything was lost, that is automatically a 
> distortion. But, then you look at the countless arguments and disagreements 
> about what meditation really is, and you realize that it is far more 
> complicated than "lost" vs "found" or "right" vs "wrong."

Meditation, in a given context (let's say "mantra meditation" for this context) 
is very precisely defined.

The fact is most people who tend to throw out opinions on this (or many other 
lists) have little idea what mantra meditation, it's breadth or it's scope 
actually is. TM teachers actually have little idea what mantra meditation is or 
it's basis and breadth and internal philosophy.

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