--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > <snippity snip> 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you see the difference between "You're trying to
> > > > > > > avoid becoming enlightened" and "I perceive that the
> > > > > > > way you're going about this is getting in the way of
> > > > > > > your enlightenment"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, the first phrasing is about you, and spoken 
directly 
> to 
> > > > you, 
> > > > > so 
> > > > > > that you are then given the choice to deal with the 
issue 
> at 
> > > > hand, 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > not.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The second phrasing is about me, and what my perceptions 
of 
> > you 
> > > > > are, 
> > > > > > therefore bringing into question the validity of my 
> > > perceptions. 
> > > > As 
> > > > > I 
> > > > > > said earlier, while this may be a fascinating topic for 
> you, 
> > it 
> > > > > avoids 
> > > > > > the issue at hand; the removal of obstacles to 
> enlightenment.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So the difference to me is clear. You persist in making 
> > these 
> > > > > semantic 
> > > > > > distinctions, which are irrelevant to the topic at hand. 
Do 
> > I 
> > > > > believe 
> > > > > > that your motive of becoming enlightened is genuine? As 
> > > > Maharishi 
> > > > > > says, the prrof is in the pudding.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What pudding?
> > > > 
> > > > As Maharishi says, The proof is in the pudding.
> > > 
> > > What pudding?
> > 
> > "The proof [i.e., test] of the pudding is in the eating," 
meaning 
> we 
> > can only know something by actually trying it :-)
> 
> Yes, but what pudding?

I am the pudding; you are the pudding; all this is the pudding, the 
pudding alone IS.





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