I just did not bring up that point. I think all kinds of pressures have been brought to bear to come up with positive results for TM. Because of the proprietary nature of TM, I think it is less attractive as a research subject because secrets in science as a basic philosophy is frowned upon, and fewer scientists outside the TMO mindset would be attracted to doing the research. On a level research field, I do not think TM would fare worse than mindfulness or other systems, but hawking am ideology over truth eventually always comes to a bad end in science.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > > > If we look at the field of meditation as viewed by science as a whole, it > > is not at the point where either states of consciousness or health benefits > > can be said to be properly defined or established. There is enough interest > > however that it is hoped better quality experiments will be pursued. > > > A good, relatively balanced presentation X. However one key point you miss is > that T M research has been plagued with fraud and data massaging problems, > over a long period of time. Perhaps you read the latest review here by a > veteran Ph.D. Cardiac study reviewer which found T M researchers > misrepresenting their data? T M research is dropping off exponentially. > > No big deal, it's probably only the domer stoner hangers-on that will miss > the quantum bullshit. > > On the other hand, Mindfulness brands of meditation started out so-so, but > have steadily improved, including some ground-breaking research on clearly > higher states of consciousness (outside of waking, dreaming and sleeping) and > evidence of the reversal of aging at the cellular level by Nobel laureates. > Mindfulness meditation is increasing at an exponential rate. > > That's a good thing, since large numbers of young scientists are showing real > interest in research into more integrated states of consciousness - and > thanks to linages with centuries of experience in producing and integrating > them, the future looks quite bright. > > Now if we could just wean the world off its various fundamentalisms we may be > alright. :-) >
