The *obliviousness* of this post is stupefying. Barry, if criticism constitutes an attempt at "fixing," you are FFL's Master Fixer.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > It's interesting, on this forum at least, to be the subject > of so much pondering, but without a shred of ill intent or > attempts to demonize being involved in the pondering. Good > pondering chops, Xeno. :-) > > Might I suggest that the reason yours are more interesting > and quite possibly more accurate than other people's is the > following: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> > wrote: > > > > As for Turq, Barry, I can hypothesise he has some > > emotional issues, but really I am just making that > > up. If he has such issues, it is not up to me to > > fix them, that is his journey. > > THAT is the whole difference between your musings and > those of others. Many of these others -- NOT just when > dealing with me but with many other people as well -- > seem to feel not only the need to "fix" those they > interact with, but the right to do so. Such people > really DO think that "fixing" those they don't approve > of or don't like IS up to them. In their heads, it's > their job. > > But it isn't. It wouldn't be even if they were spiritual > teachers, which no one on this forum really is. > > The problem as I see is not perceiving others and making > assumptions about them based on their scribblings in > cyberspace; we all do that. The problem is deciding that > one has the right to try to change these others. > > Quite frankly -- in my analysis -- those who are most > likely to take upon themselves the "job" of trying to > change others, on this forum and on other "spiritual" > forums, are the very people *who change the least > themselves*. You can go back a year, three years, > ten years, or twenty, and you find them writing > essentially the same posts, often to the same people, > demanding in the same tones that they change. But the > "compulsive fixers" never seem to change themselves, > or even see the need to change themselves. *They're* > not the ones who are broken; the people they're > lecturing to are broken. > > I tend to disagree. In my view, everyone here is pretty > much equal in being broken, and no one here has either > the right or the ability to fix them. We're all just > bozos on this bus. > > Interestingly, those who seem to feel the strongest sense > of entitlement when it comes to fixing others are often > those who show the most resistance when anyone else points > out something in their *own* behavior that could use a > little changing. Turnabout is *definitely* not fair play > for the compulsive "fixers." > > While I think that your ideal of viewing what other > people write as lessons is good, in some cases I have > written off some of these lessons, and the "fixers" > who try to deliver them, as Just Not Worthy Of My Time. > > Over the course of years, I haven't found anything > of use in any of the things they've tried to "fix" > in me, and thus I don't see their lessons as having > any value. To me at least. Maybe others do, and that > is their business. Me, I just write them off and > stop bothering to read what they write. I'm pretty > sure, having done this for some months now, that > I have not missed anything of value. What I have > missed is being lectured to by people who seem to > feel that they can "fix" me without ever having put > any effort into fixing themselves first. I urge them > to take their "fixer upper" mentality elsewhere, and > aim it at those who might appreciate it. :-) >
