--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > The big difference between Barry and I and Vaj is that he > has decided to post anonymously. > > I have always felt that your discussions about Vaj on the > language of TM were influenced by his allegiance to other > systems of meditation where the terminology has shifted his > perception of what the TM instructions REALLY mean. I've > got a simple chest labeled "meditation" in my neurology, > his is a complex intersection of a lot of teachings that > has shifted how he thinks of TM.
Since the professional hater has chosen to beat this dead horse again, I'll check in as well. My assessment of Vaj and his use of terminology agrees with yours. After all I've learned along the Way since leaving the TMO, the language I'd use to describe it and its mechanics certainly agrees more with Vaj's than it does Maharishi's. That doesn't mean that I don't remember the bullshit that Maharishi taught us to parrot, only that I reject it as the bullshit it was. That -- using "incorrect" language -- is the thing that the professional haters are glomming onto, with IMO only one purpose in mind -- to demonize Vaj and other TM critics and try to diminish their credibility in the eyes of a largely imaginary audience of TBs such as themselves. The very irony of people who were themselves so lazy and so non-involved that they not only never become TM teachers themselves, they never even tried to *meet* Maharishi in person then questioning someone's use or misuse of the "official" parroted TM-speak is lost on the haters. *They* believed everything they were told, and parrot it as if it were the Word Of God. *They* are such TBs that they cling desperately to the exact wording of the bullshit they were told. What a bunch of losers, afraid to ever describe things in their own words. One can only pity their attempts to deride someone with more creativity of expression than themselves. > To me, Vaj is consistently this guy: > > He became a teacher under Maharishi and taught TM. > > He decided that the path was real but the teaching was flawed. > > Having sought out teachers who seemed to be delivering what he > had been seeking but not finding from Maharishi, he said to > himself "WTF was Maharishi teaching then?" > > His study brought him to the conclusion that Maharishi was a > fraud in a system of development which he takes very seriously. > > So he delights in posting here about what he has learned and > his new perspective on Maharishi. I believe he also takes a > special delight in this improbable speculation about his past > association with TM and in tweaking Judy's ear about it. Never having met Vaj except here, that description matches my assessment of him as well. Especially the last part. :-) Judy, in addition to being a professional hater, seems to be a professional victim, *always* willing to fall for any troll thrown out in her path. Vaj delights in throwing out such trollbait. As do I. She's such a TB that she *has* to fall for each troll, and overreact to each legitimate criticism by ignoring the criticism itself and concentrating instead on trying to "kill the messenger." If your assessment of Vaj's delight in tweaking Judy above is correct, I certainly add myself to the list of people who share that delight. She's just so *predictable*. :-) So some of us have fun with that by taunting her into making our case for us. I suspect that's what Vaj is up to, and I for one don't blame him for doing it. Saying stuff and expecting other people to believe it just because you said it is a loser's game. Winners in this particular game just state clearly what the TBs are most likely to do when prodded, then prod them, and then sit back and watch them do exactly what was predicted. Willytex tries to do this, and is bad at it. Vaj is good at it. That's why he's such a target for the professional haters. Just my opinion...
