--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" <reavismarek@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the Nisargadatta quote, Tartbrain. I'm not the hero-worshipped I > once was, but Nisargadatta still gets my attention.
I have read little of him, but picked up and read some of I AM THAT yesterday. I like him. He explained much better the point that I was getting at in my "Cafe" post of yesterday. > > And in that regards the question still remains "who" or "what" is attention? Perhaps N. would say its nothing of substance, just (imaginary) bubbles in Consciousness, a flicker of the mind, which itself is just a flicker. (flicker being a word one can easily misread if one is reading rapidly, and in that vein, it raises another way of looking at it, "Its ALL just one huge Mind Fuck!" Jan Esmann, a Batgap interview that I just heard and recommend, might say that its intense Love. http://batgap.com/jan-esmann/#comments I might say its that thing that keep randomly, wandering, usually off point. > > Like what you wrote, thanks for that. Nice to have you back. > > Marek > > *** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > "What fires together, wires together" is one of my favorite sutras. > > > > > > Fantastic! The educational implications are vast. > > > > > > > > > Perhaps too far of point, but there is a quirky film I recently saw, > > Limitless. A pill gives people their full mental potential, but of course > > wears off and the takers need a constant supply. Until the end, the > > protagonist reveals he no longer needs the supply, the experience has > > rewired things such that it is now permanent. > > > > Parallels to "what we put our attention on grows strong in our life". > > Attention, I speculate, enables or encourages new connections, rewiring. > > Similar to fires together (attention) wires together. > > > > Also helps explain imaging and affirmations. Our mental image rewires > > things and enables (the same as causal) an outer manifestation of the > > inner image. > > > > Does rewiring bleed down to the genetic level -- that is passing on the > > rewiring to future gens? Interesting implications. > > > > Have you read Buddha's Brain? or On Intelligence? > > > > A quote I came across from Nisargadatta last night. > > > > "But in fact all experience is in the mind, and even his coming to me and > > getting help is all within himself, he imagines an answer from without. To > > me there is no me, no man and no giving. All of this is merely a flicker in > > the mind. I am infinite peace and silence in which nothing appears, for all > > that appears disappears. Nobody comes for help, nobody offers help, > > nobody gets help, it is all but a display in consciousness. > > > > The pure mind sees things as they are bubbles in consciousness. These > > bubbles are appearing, disappearing and reappearing without having real > > being. No particular cause can be ascribed to them, fore each is caused by > > all and affects all. Each bubble is a body and all these bodies are mine." > > > > Mind is influenced, if not shaped by, those neural pathways that are fired > > up, connected. Helps explains, or at least opens the door of plausibility > > of how mind can shape what is out there (quantum soup idea) in one way (for > > the vast majority) and in radically different in others (Nisragadatta's > > view). > > > > Off on a tangent of this, brings to me the question, to what extent do > > transmissions, shatipat, darshan, etc also change neural pathways and ways > > of firing? > > > > One poster some time ago made a curious statement (to me). That he just > > threw it all away -- all the descriptions of others, and his own > > expectations, of enlightenment, and simply defined the state that he wanted > > to attain. Imagined it, focused on it deeply (is my understanding of his > > process) and he, his experience, became that. While writing that off at > > the time, to some extent, as wish fulfillment, it does fit within the model > > of neural-plasticity (which is far from saying that is what it is.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:49 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It's just part and parcel of a mental path: mental causes create > > > > > > mental effects. Given what we know about neuroplasticity today, I'd > > > > > > have to respond: you would have to either change your mind long > > > > > > enough for your cortex to re-weave new connections -or- you'd have > > > > > > to so foundationally shift your consciousness so as to effectively > > > > > > alter your way of thinking and seeing the world. Otherwise you're > > > > > > trapped within the neural hardware of the imprisoning cortex that > > > > > > you yourself had volitionally woven. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That felt like scripture to me on this Sunday morning Vaj, thanks! I > > > > > am knee deep in to a book about neuroplasticity and it has really > > > > > forced me to rethink my life's habits. > > > > > > > > "What fires together, wires together" is one of my favorite sutras. > > > > > > > > > >
