On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Tom Pall wrote:

> Vaj, this is a terrible thing to say about TMers.  One could draw the 
> conclusion from what you write that RC and Ravi are off the wall and 
> motormouths because they're at the very least psychologically warped and 
> delusional.   That of course can't be.   RC just runs off at the mouth and 
> takes us on an incredible journey through every nook and cranny of his mind 
> in every post because, well, things are complicated, right?

Well I only read some of RC's posts and none of Ravi's, so I'm probably the 
wrong person to ask! (and of course incomplete causal paths that are mental in 
nature are not unique to TM/TMSP). Although in RC's case, from what I gather he 
had the maturity to see through some of the TM world-dream, but perhaps may 
have replaced it with another. After all, at least TM had a strongly ingrained 
belief that it was scientific. I doubt we could say the same for 
transubstantiation or "grace".

> And it's expected as part of the path forward that you'll spend some months 
> in a mental (behavioral science?) ward because, well, it /is/ just part of 
> the checking notes I didn't seem to receive, right? 

It's just part and parcel of a mental path: mental causes create mental 
effects. Given what we know about neuroplasticity today, I'd have to respond: 
you would have to either change your mind long enough for your cortex to 
re-weave new connections -or- you'd have to so foundationally shift your 
consciousness so as to effectively alter your way of thinking and seeing the 
world. Otherwise you're trapped within the neural hardware of the imprisoning 
cortex that you yourself had volitionally woven.

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