Your East-West opposition is incorrectly conceptualized. Theistic theory and practice is the norm in Indian systems of practice, not Shankara's form of "non-duality alone" (kevala advaita vedanta). Even Advaita is composed of different types, like the theistic, qualified advaita of Ramanuja or the non-thinkable dualism/non-dualism of the Gaudiya's (achintya bhedabheda) known here in the West as HariKrishnas. It also doesn't cover the strict monothestic dualism of Madhva, who has a large and strong following in India.
All of these lineages are based upon love of a Monotheistic God, just not your brand of loyalty to YHVH-Hesoos (and Him crucified). For my part, I have already provided you with references to some of the deeper parts of authentic Christian spirituality. What you do or do not, what you learn or ignore all is solely your choice. However, for you to generalize in your own way about "the East", based upon such rudimentary knowledge, is to promote just another form of thoughtless, doctrinaire Christianity something along the lines of the Catholic evangelism of This Rock magazine (now called Catholic Answers magazine). However, if this is your declaration of your view, and is your real reason for being here on FFL, then I call you a zealot, a proselyte, a deceiver, a satan (look up the meaning), a hater of men for the love of your petty god. Read it and weep or pray to your genocidal daddy to kill me. Either way, daimons don't scare me nor do foolish tears. . MZ: You see, then, emptybill, I was only making a point about how I came to devote my life to attaining enlightenment through Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation. It started with listening to music like this. The universality of experience where egos were asked to die into the oneness of this love. It was a lie. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@...> wrote: > > emptybill: > > Keith Jarrett's Koln Concert is music that stays with me. I only posted Joe MacDonald because, back in 1967, the metaphysical context of this particular song carried with it the alteration of my consciousness under LSD. And the extraordinary confrontation I felt of my individual egohood. In some sense, under the influence of psychedelic drugs I dreamed of being able to go through the reality of The Tibetan Book of the Deadand attain some kind of consummation of consciousnessfirst experienced under drugs. And Maharishi and TM did in fact produce the ultimate resolution of my LSD experienceand took "Grace" by Country Joe and the Fish to its logical spiritual limits. This was Unity Consciousness > > So I was not posting this in order praise the music. I don't listen to Joe MacDonald any more. But had it not been for drugs and music like this (which contextualized the psychedelic experience) I would never have taken up TMor gone anywhere near an Indian Guru. Before drugsand the pantheistic experiences they producedI felt the alienness of the Eastand its gods of enlightenment. But when I listened to "Grace"back then in 1967I knew I would never be the same, and I sought to do justice to what has been revealed to me under LSD. > > Maharishi and TM went way past this experience, and provided me with the most profound realization of this ego death and oneness of everything experience I could have imagined. so, then, emptybill, I was only posting this in order to make a point: To participate in the context of experience suggested by Country Joe and the Fish's "Grace" was, for me at least, to implicitly aim one's life in the direction of the Eastand that state of awareness which would be a permanently altered state of consciousness. And this in fact is exactly what happened. LSD was the gateway drug to TMand enlightenment. > > For me now listening to this music I only get the sense of the beautiful hallucination of it all. Same with what happened to me via TM: my purported enlightenment. > > Jefferson Airplane and Tomorrow Never Knows are the same. If it weren't for the psychedelic experience and the sixties, TM and Maharishi would never have caught on. LSD and the sixties 'made' Maharishi. If not for these cultural revolutionin terms of the metaphysics of consciousnessMaharishi and TM would be hardly known at all in the world. The Beatles, for example, they catapulted Maharishi into the stratosphere of fame, and until the late seventies, he never came down. > > You see, then, emptybill, I was only making a point about how I came to devote my life to attaining enlightenment through Maharishi and Transcendental Meditation. It started with listening to music like this. The universality of experience where egos were asked to die into the oneness of this love. > > It was a lie. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > WTF ??? > > > > We are to be impressed by a songwriter praising Joe Stalin and Mao Ze > > Dong? > > Or is this just a play on Barry's name? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0SIAR9TRxk > > > > > >