--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> "W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all
> that much there there. Take away the visuals and
> leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true."
> 
> True for you...in your subjective experience. 

That's all I'm liable for. :-)

The whole point of debating different musical
tastes is a bit of a circle jerk. We love what
resonates with us. End of story. WHY it resonates 
with us is something we can rarely, if ever, put 
into words.

> I quite enjoy her voice...id'd as a mezzo-soprano. 
> Perhaps this is more to your liking?
> 
> Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau - a baritone and "one of 
> the supreme vocal artists of the 20th century"
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxMMg6bxrg&feature=related

Thanks for the thought, and I do appreciate it,
but at the same time I plead ignorance when it
comes to operatic or "trained" voices. I'm more
a fan of "naturally-evolved" voices, in which
the artist came to their own way of expressing
themselves vocally. Janis Joplin voices, strained
(in her case) through a veil of Southern Comfort.
"Lived in" voices, voices that could never in a 
million years be accused of being "trained," or 
classical. Think the four guys who sang about 
being Highwaymen in the clip posted earlier 
on this forum. 

Case in point: Mark Knopfler. I mentioned him
earlier, because I found myself surfing YouTube,
finding one of his tracks, and then clicking on
related links for some time, digging every minute 
of it.

Mark doesn't actually think very much of himself
as a vocalist. And by classical standards, he
couldn't be more correct. He resisted for many 
years pressure to become the lead vocalist for 
Dire Straits. But I think since then he's more
than "grown into his own voice," to the point 
that there is really no one on planet Earth who 
sounds like him.

He is really and truly unique, whether it comes
down to his vocals or his equally unique guitar
style. Sorry if this is a comedown for you from
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, but I really plead
guilty to preferring Mark Knopfler. 

Presented as further anecdotal evidence that the 
guy lived interesting past lives, and possibly
remembers them:

A Night In Summer Long Ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4hzg2oTRI4

Golden Heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_KA9EHJA0

:-)

> >________________________________
> > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:29 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
> > 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <j_alexander_stanley@> 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> >> > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Link works, but I remain completely baffled by the whole 
> >> > > Lady Gaga phenomenon. To me, that was just a half-naked 
> >> > > woman screaming into a microphone while other musicians 
> >> > > play random noises.
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you for this, Alex. I was beginning to fear
> >> > that standards here had reached a new low. People 
> >> > are such suckers for a little cheap flash.
> >> 
> >> I'm more a sucker for a good dance beat and a catchy 
> >> melody. 
> >
> >Exactly. I have nothing against Lady Gaga per se,
> >but if I had ever heard a single song of hers on
> >the radio, with no "special visual effects," I 
> >would never have paid the least bit of attention
> >to it. Modern-day elevator music. 
> >
> >I don't blame her for this; I blame MTV. They took
> >the music out of the music industry by relating it
> >in most people's minds with the visuals. Either a
> >band or a singer dancing around and acting like
> >drama queens onstage or a series of non-related 
> >visual images chosen for their impact, and rarely
> >a thought to the music itself. 
> >
> >W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
> >that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
> >leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> >at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true.


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