--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 15, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Peter wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 2:26 AM, Peter wrote:
> >>
> >>> All this crap about lineages is absurd.
> >>
> >> So you'll be leaving out the invocation of the
> >> lineage next time you
> >> initiate someone?
> >>
> >> THAT would make an interesting study...those who got
> >> the initiation
> >> WITH the lineage invocation, those who got it
> >> WITHOUT.
> >
> > Not when it's used that way. What I'm talking about is
> > the use of a spiritual lineage as a waking state
> > concept used to validate or invalidate a teaching.
> > It's useless it that sense and just creates spiritual
> > materialism
> 
> I think it probably depends who and what we are talking about. In
> some cases the guru yoga and the effectiveness of the transmission 
> rely on the lineage tree for flow of blessings and maintaining the 
> live wire of the teaching. It is also what helps the student BECOME 
> the guru rather than remaining as "student" still hanging around 
> the teacher year after year after year. While many may boo-hoo 
> lineage, there is nothing more helpful than being assisted by those 
> who came before you.
> 
> I know for a lot of teachers, the invocation is important for them. 
> It's the morphogenetic field behind the teaching.

Look at what Peter wrote again.  He said explicitly
he is not talking about the "morphogenetic field"
notion when he said the crap about lineages is absurd.






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