--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I agree, God does perform the miracle, as he does everything 
> else.
> > > It's just that, what is considered a miracle, is usually just 
an 
> > > event in which Spirit, takes precedence over matter.
> > > Or the 'Timeless' takes precedence over time.
> > > It's just something that occurs spontaneously when God has a 
> reason 
> > > to express himself in that way, not only through the Master, 
but 
> > > through the student as well, as it creates an experience of 
> Unity.  
> > > A miracle is a two-way street;
> > > A miracle is a participatory event; 
> > > It's not a sideshow.
> > 
> > Sure, but Moses performed miracles in responseto challenges by 
> > Pharoh's court magicians. I don't think that its IMPOSSIBLE to 
> > perform miracles before doubters. Certainly Thomas was presented 
> with 
> > one...
> 
> For all I know, neither Moses nor Thomas really "existed." I *have* 
> seen that miracles can occur with doubters *if* their hearts are 
> deep-down open to grace, or malleable to surrender (unity), or 
> innocent -- however we wish to put it. If they have a whole lot 
> invested in the miracle's not happening, the miracle probably won't 
> happen -- this too is grace :-)

Sounds like a copout to me.




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