"In eternity, the Father begets the Son in his own likeness. 'The Word was with 
God and the Word was God.' Like God, it had his nature. Furthermore, I say that 
God has begotten him in my soul. Not only is the soul like him and he like it, 
but he is in it, for the Father begets his Son in the soul exactly as he does 
in eternity and not otherwise. He must do so whether he will or not. The Father 
ceaselessly begets his Son and, what is more, he begets me not only as his Son 
but as himself and himself as myself, begetting me in his own nature, his own 
being. At that inmost Source, I spring from the Holy Spirit and there is one 
life, one being, one action. All God's works are one and therefore He begets me 
as he does his Son and without distinction."

Meister Eckhart
Sermon 18
Raymond B. Blakney, Trans., Harper & Bros., New York, 1941, p. 181
quoted in D. T. Suzuki
_Mysticism: Christian and Buddhist_
NY: Harper Bros., 1957, p. 111-112, at sacred-texts.com


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> We are all meant to be mothers of God. What good is it to me if this eternal 
> birth of the divine Son takes place unceasingly but does not take place 
> within myself? And, what good is it to me if Mary is full of grace if I am 
> not also full of grace? What good is it to me for the Creator to give birth 
> to his Son if I do not also give birth to him in my time and my culture? 
> Then, then, is the fullness of time: When the Son of God is begotten in us.
>  Meister Eckhart,
> 14th century Christian theologian and mystic
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Interesting though.  Sitting around recently with adept people who 
> > > > > > work with and can see people's energy fields comparatively, the 
> > > > > > comment was that the Ravi Shankar AOL kriya people tend to have 
> > > > > > coarser chakra systems from the rawer kundalini that their 
> > > > > > pranayams give.  The SRF (Yogananda) have sweeter cultivated 
> > > > > > systems and don't have that kind of evident coarseness at all with 
> > > > > > their kriyas, they seem to get nicer energy systems to work with.   
> > > > > > Ammachi people too have nicer working systems top to bottom.  The 
> > > > > > TM people, are characteristically top lit while not connected much 
> > > > > > to the energy fields in their subtle bodies otherwise.  Sometimes 
> > > > > > tremendous upper registers of their upper mental fields but not lit 
> > > > > > or home (integrated) much at all below that.  Often the TM'ers seem 
> > > > > > not well embodied spiritually and often carry stuck flows in their 
> > > > > > energy fields.  That's the comparing experience with it. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's actually true, it's the same kind of feedback I was getting 
> > > > > when I moved out of TM. Later, through the spiritual work going on, 
> > > > > that changed. It also corresponds with my experience.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, this person has been extrememely helpful to people here this way, 
> > > > Janet Sussman:
> > > > http://www.timeportalpubs.com/sunpoint.htm
> > > >
> > > 
> > > In looking at it, for years TM meditators and their families in spiritual 
> > > troubles with their own subtle spiritual physiology's have sought out 
> > > help from her as spiritual things have got out of balance.  Even with the 
> > > top level TM folks. She has been an important resource out in the 
> > > meditating community, along with the saints, healers and spiritual 
> > > teachers coming through like John Douglas or the ladies.  
> > > 
> > > There are some other people here who are good at it too.  However, these 
> > > subtle system energetic troubles, even intermittent spiritual meditator 
> > > depressions, rooted in the system, evidently get beyond the purview of 
> > > just TM and TM-siddhis administrators.  
> > > 
> > > That Maharishi never really taught much about it makes one wonder how 
> > > able he was with it; as in, even the enlightened can't know everything.  
> > > Is interesting that M never cultivated or held out shakti-pat as a 
> > > modality of his spiritual help.  It wasn't his thing evidently.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > Neurol-plasticity and chakras?  
> > 
> > "Integration enables us to be flexible and free; the lack of such 
> > connections promotes a life that is either rigid or chaotic, stuck and dull 
> > on the one hand or explosive and unpredictable on the other. With the 
> > connecting freedom of integration comes a sense of vitality and the ease of 
> > well-being. Without integration we can become imprisoned in behavioral 
> > ruts—anxiety and depression, greed, obsession, and addiction."
> >  
> > Dr Daniel Siegel, MD
> > psychiatrist and author of Mindsight
> >
>


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