--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow, nothing like hearing an excellent reputation that my ass
> > > now has to try to live up to!  Thanks Marek!
> > > 
> > > "Untethered" is such an excellent word. I think the egging on
> > > has to do with the fact that some of the new posters figured
> > > out the social system.  If you throw mud at Barry and Vaj and
> > > myself, certain people will have your back.
> > 
> > Says Curtis, parroting one of Barry's more ridiculous
> > excuses, a variant of the one he borrowed yesterday.
> 
> Wow, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt with that reason.  Then you 
> genuinely support Ravi lying about why I left the movement on a public forum, 
> his constant use of a slur against people with mental disabilities, and and 
> trollish offensive language toward me.

Hey Judy, you know that I like reading you and respect your honesty and common 
sense.  I can't figure out what has been going on with you and your willingness 
to overlook what just happened with Ravi, and what has been happening with him. 
 You may dislike Curtis, but come on...... Ravi is crossing so many lines here. 
 The only thing I can think of is that you got sucked in to a battle you would 
normally see through.  You can like Ravi all you want, and still call him on 
things like using "retard," gratuitous insults, and spreading rumors about 
Curtis.    Frankly, you and the other fans of Ravi are all feeding into his 
drama - and I don't see that as a kindness to him. And more important, of 
course, it is really lying about someone else's reputation, something I know 
you would not stand for if Curtis were not the victim..
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> Your double standards goes so much deeper than I imagined. 
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> > 
> >   It was a simple
> > > social formula that has shielded some posters from a more
> > > unanimous group, WTF? In this particular context I think
> > > there is a callus
> > 
> > (callous, adj.; callus, noun) (This correction is provided
> > so Curtis can make a show of thanking me for it while
> > pointedly ignoring the rest of what I said.)
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> As always I appreciate these corrections that my robots failed me on.  The 
> last time it was the only thing worth commenting on in your post and it 
> caused such a fuss.  The exact one I was trying to avoid by not responding to 
> your taunts in that post. 
> 
> And unlike Ravi (that is a long A right?) I have a serious commitment to the 
> integrity of my point of view on the movement following my participation in 
> it.  Unlike you ,whose strongest connection with the movement is your years 
> of Internet arguments about it, I have a deep history working in the 
> organization and those are the experiences I bring to bear as my 
> creditability when I raise my new POV. So although anyone here may know from 
> where Ravi is pulling this lie (hint, lack of sun) I don't want to hear this 
> on the next MUM student Youtube from Bobby Roth.
> 
> So it matters, and you know it matters to me, but you have chosen your 
> battles.  OK, that's how it rolls here.
> 
> But please don't expect me to view your support for his behavior to be 
> anything less than direct hypocrisy in the exact area you and others give me 
> the most shit about.  So we can now put to rest any version of your routine 
> about me calling Barry out, right?  You are a fraud and a poseur of virtue, 
> contrived by malevolent convenience. 
> 
> > 
> > > disregard for the welfare of this person being played as a
> > > pawn. There is something unseemly going on in this dynamic,
> > > and I appreciate your speaking up.
> > 
> > "Do you really not understand that Ravi has actual problems
> > that shouldn't be speculated about on the Internet like he
> > is our private intellectual toy?"--Curtis to Robin, awhile
> > back
> 
> I haven't even begun to speculate on Ravi's situation in detail Judy, I've 
> been pulling all my punches as you well know.  But the situation I am dealing 
> with is of such an obvious nature, nothing needs to be said between me and 
> anyone without your personal agenda.
> 
> But I have no reason to pull my punches with you so here goes.
> 
> Ravi's lie about why I left the movement was reframed as a "tweek" by you 
> because you wouldn't mind if such an outspoken critic of all things Maharishi 
> was plagued by an internet rumor as having been expelled against his will for 
> immoral conduct.  You let it slide in a demonstration of Carl Rovian tactics 
> against people you disagree with. 
> 
> So now we both have felt these shoes on both feet haven't we Judy.  Perhaps 
> now you can understand what I mean when I say I pick my battles here.  And 
> you can drop the pretense that you are acting differently here, running 
> around correcting people for what are obvious, hurtful lies in the context of 
> obnoxious mean-spirited trolling.  
> 
> I don't care if you correct his behavior or not, or why you don't.  I don't 
> need you to help him make a fool of himself here.  But I would appreciate 
> your understanding where I am coming from a little better and not giving me 
> shit for doing exactly what you are doing here, letting people fight their 
> own battles, and dropping in when you feel like something interests you or 
> you want to give someone a "tweek".  
> 
> Just stop being such a F'ing hypocrite about it.
> 
> Si capisce?
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> > > I have been fascinated by how far people can stretch their oft quoted 
> > > principles to encourage the enemy of their enemy.  It is revealing many 
> > > trollish agendas here.  But with kind words from some posters here, like 
> > > yourself, I feel as if there is another option for those who value it.  
> > > 
> > > Thanks man.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" <reavismarek@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's not my habit, at least for the last year or so, to interject my 
> > > > opinion into an ongoing thread, but following FFL for the last month or 
> > > > two, it's amazed me to observe the willingness of some folks here to 
> > > > glorify and encourage what, in my opinion and experience, appears to be 
> > > > some very untethered behavior by some of the more recent and prolific 
> > > > posters. 
> > > > 
> > > > And even more inexplicably, to gang up on Curtis, for attempting, in a 
> > > > straightforward yet still compassionate way, to engage in a reasonable 
> > > > exchange with, and criticism of, those individuals.
> > > > 
> > > > For what it's worth, in my estimation Curtis is a true, shining example 
> > > > of what I'd always hoped the TM movement to produce. There's certainly 
> > > > no one on this board from whom I've learned more.
> > > > 
> > > > Curtis certainly doesn't need any endorsement from me, but I felt 
> > > > compelled to write, regardless.
> >
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