--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > <snip> > > > As for anything said about Curtis, he isn't shy about his > > > opinions and can take care of himself I am sure. Please > > > correct me on that if I am wrong Curtis, though I will > > > cringe if you do... > > > > Cringe not. Curtis has an intellect that can write up a storm > > and defend himself. He already has. I could not match him, or > > Judy or many others here. > > I'd stick to speaking for yourself on this, Susan. > > > But specific to this last exchange, you all know that Ravi > > knows nothing of events that occurred when most of us were > > actually teaching TM and disciples of Maharishi, way back > > in the 70's and early 80's. That is when Curtis was around, > > and that is when I was around. So why would any of you fans > > of Ravi buy into that wild lie about why Curtis left the > > movement and promote it and defend Ravi? I don't get it. > > You sure don't. You've bought into Curtis's beneath- > contemptible interpretation and taken it a step further. > > > I know that you feel strongly about not liking Barry's "rants" > > and classifying you all as TB's etc, I get that. That has been > > going on for years and is really between Judy and Barry, with > > a few others included. > > Unbelievable. > > > And I disagree with you - I see no improvement in FFL lately. > > None at all. I see a bunch of people, you included, that > > seemed once to have some heart and some sense even if I did > > not always agree with you, and even if I often enjoy Barry > > and Curtis. I see you all getting swept up in Ravi's whirlwind, > > or Robin's, using it to pull yourselves into a tighter group and > > giving you something to agree about, to rally around. As I said > > a few days ago, it feels like a feeding frenzy, a pack of wild > > dogs or pirana. And someone is getting hurt here. > > The mind really boggles here. You haven't the slightest > idea why we've "rallied around" Ravi and Robin, do you? > Just as Curtis and Barry have disingenuously suggested, > you believe it was to use them against the folks we > don't like. > > You've managed to ignore completely that before there > was any "rallying around," there were vicious, totally > gratuitous attacks on the two of them from a number of > people here, Barry in particular. That Ravi and Robin > might have been getting hurt concerns you not at all. > I did not know that Ravi and Robin were having lies told about them. That does not justify what has just happened. In addition,I have always assumed that it is only Barry or 1 or 2 others who believe in his categorization of you as people who defensively defend the TM faith etc etc etc. In fact, I don't think he believes it himself, but likes to "tweek" people and watch their reactions. I have stated to him before at least a few times that he undermines his positions with his over the top and inaccurate labeling. It is an argument I long ago stopped paying any sort of attention to, altho I get that it bothers you.
I am sure I have missed things and that you may have many legitimate reasons to be angry. What I do know is that right now Ravi told a malicious, very personal lie about Curtis, you all know that it is a complete lie and you have not told him to back off about it. In my opinion, this type of lie is a lot more harmful that Barry's stuff. It is in a different league entirely. If you enjoy Ravi and his posts, great. But I think it is not a good thing to support statements you know to be lies. No matter the victim. Do you agree?
