--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve!
> 
> You studied Julius Caesar with your daughter. What is the essence of this 
> play's theme?  What do you make of the main characters? Like Cassius, like 
> Brutus.Similarly, you should examine this post by Judy Stein, and consider: 
> what is the essence of what this person is saying? why is she saying what she 
> is saying? To what extent can I, by entering fully into the spirit of what 
> has said, comprehend fully and exactly what is going on here such as to allow 
> me to compose an existentially and intellectually authentic response?
> 
> This is what neither Barry or Curtis will do. For Curtis, what Judy says here 
> amounts simply to: How am I going argue against all this so that I am spared 
> the experience of wondering whether any of it is true or not? You will be 
> compelled to do the same, Steve. So there can't be any kind of conversation 
> between us until you see that in approaching what Judy Stein has written 
> here, you must try to get a hold of the entirety of the truth of what is 
> getting expressed—as if, to repeat, you were examining a play, and your 
> daughter was assigned the exercise of trying to determine—from an outsider's 
> perspective—who is right, how much they are right, who is wrong, to what 
> extent are they wrong and so on.
> 
> In other words, Steve, you must look at this post of Judy's and mortify all 
> your subjective compulsions to want to see it the way it can serve your own 
> needs, your own conditioned expectations, your own way of having life add 
> itself up to you consistent with your own self-determined predilections.
> 
> There is after all a 'truth' in an disagreement like the one between Judy and 
> Curtis. You are singularly incapable of stepping back and contemplating what 
> that truth is independent of your violent and reflexive reactions to Judy—and 
> your, because of your experience in being scrutinized by Judy in the past, 
> strong bias towards wanting her opponent Curtis to triumph, to be your hero 
> in this.
> 
> I don't let my predisposition one way or the other affect or influence the 
> way I read Judy's post here. For all I know Judy could be full of shit. And 
> Curtis the perfect martyr. But when I really go deeply into the matter, I 
> cannot traduce my own conscience: Judy is arguing fairly, honestly, and 
> truthfully. 
> 
> And what does *this* mean? It means she trusts in her contact with something 
> other than her own vanity and self-esteem. What is that other thing she 
> trusts in—perhaps not even consciously? That would be reality, Steve. For 
> reality will adjudicate this dispute in a perfect way.
> 
> Why not seek to bring your views into accordance with something as beautiful 
> and ruthless as reality?
> 
> Robin
> 

Oy.

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