--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > I believe in the phenomenon just not the interpretation of > what it means.
Excellent. People have all *sorts* of experiences. And to them (us) they're very real at the time. It's in the interpretation of what these experiences "mean" that the rubber often fails to meet the road. > It is well known capacity of our brains. In some conditions > our ability to distinguish inner and outer mental experience > gets confused. That is my take on the sincere ones. Mine, too. > I have no reason to believe that Roberts was less sincere > in having a dramatic experience than Maharishi. I have compassion for Mr. Roberts. Imagine trying to be a Fundamentalist Christian preacher while having the first name of "Oral." Guy's had an uphill battle. > It is just funny how convenient they both came out to be > for their own desires. A trend I have noticed as well. > I am not really sure that Maharishi is not just reporting > a dramatic conversation he had with himself in the context > of a temple using Mother Divine as an artistic literary device. I don't remember who said it first, but a quote I always liked was "I know that I am God because every time I talk to him I find that I am talking to myself." > That would be my best guess. He was reporting his thoughts > in a more dramatic way taking some poetic license to punch > the story up a bit. One could make the case that the Ramayana did exactly the same thing, expanding on a simple soap opera story about adultery and rage and turning it into some kind of high, spiritual epic. > He did a similar thing I believe when he claimed that > Vasishtha came onto him last night! It lead to a perspective > about the Vedas. LOL. > I have my doubts that he saw himself in as mystical a light > as he projected to us. I have my doubts that Maharishi ever saw himself, period. I think his brain was racing so fast and that he was so enamored with it that he never had a chance to self-reflect. > Judith's book makes me believe he was more of a poetic > devise guy than a "I just talked to Mother Divine for > real real" guy. YMMV Device. But yeah. He was a storyteller, telling tall tales to the children. Who ate it up like gumdrops. > But my guess is that there are way more people who actually > experience something dramatic than people who are outright > lying through their teeth. I've had ones like it so I > understand how compelling they are. I would agree. On the whole, the people I like and prefer to hang with are the ones who have such experiences and then work on figuring out WTF they might have been with some measure of humility, and humor. Those who claim to "know" what such experiences were and what they meant, not so much.